This is gonna bankrupt dell.
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@c6 They can’t and they won’t
@h3 I thank that former Dell employee who lobbied.
Nothing will change. Companywide "national interest" exceptions are available, and you can be sure those will be offered for sale.
@th so this status quo is changing fast. Strategic thinking finally starts to play a role in country-wide decision-making regarding the import of foreign qualified work.
I hadn’t planned on speaking up, but I feel compelled to now: I’ve seen individuals at Dell on H1B visas who, in my view, should not have been granted those positions. Qualified American workers could have filled those roles just as easily. There’s a real issue at Dell, alongside a manufactured one: upper management often claims they can’t find qualified candidates for certain roles. In my view, this is misleading. The real motivation seems to be securing cheaper labor.
I’ve also observed another recurring problem in the tech sector: once companies begin offshoring jobs, particularly in development, then it tends to trigger the use of H1B visas. This happens because they have no intention of investing in training American workers. I speak from experience at a Fortune 10 company. These firms aren’t short on cash; they simply choose not to pay American employees what they’re worth.
@k0
It is easier said than done. There are many compliance and security regulations which will make offshoring of ciritical jobs impossible. The jobs which can be offshored are those for which even today we do not need H1B workers.
Sad that this only affects new visas and not existing ones. Will likely do very little to impact corporations that abuse the system like Dell.
Any multinational corp will just move their H1B headcount either to their home countries or friendlier nations. This will NOT increase US hiring of US citizens. Just drive more offshoring. No company is going to foot a $100K/yr fee for a $150k-$200k role. No company is going to convert an H1B role to a US citizen position and increase US footprint in the exact same moment the same company is WFRing US workers.
Great news for both Dell n American Job seekers
They will move jobs outside USA if they cant hire h1bs
They are going to lose more good employees too.
It’s not going to bankrupt Dell. More likely, they’ll lean harder on outsourcing, though that’s a short-lived fix since new laws against outsourcing are on the horizon, and these ones will be the final nail on the coffin for many companies.
When a U.S. firm hires an H-1B worker with just a bachelor’s degree, it usually means they didn’t put in enough effort to find local talent. Corporations cut corners by skipping training and upskilling, so they share part of the blame.
The idea that American workers earn more than H-1B workers is false: H-1B employees are often paid up to 15-30% less. The new $100,000 fee is meant to close that loophole. It ensures only top talent will come to the U.S., instead of companies using visas as a way to suppress wages and avoid paying Americans fairly.
You can split these companies into two categories:
The abusers: Roughly 90% fall here, using H-1Bs for cheap labor. I won’t name names, but it’s obvious who they are, i call them the "greedy fu--s"
The genuine users: A minority of firms, mainly in tech, research, and healthcare, that recruit world-class talent. For them, the $100,000 fee is negligible, more like a droplet in the ocean.
One last point: a previous post about H-1Bs was recently removed, but it’s worth stressing that this Trump administration decision was heavily influenced by persistent lobbying. An ex-Dell employee reportedly spent months flagging Trump and JD Vance on X about the abuse of H-1B visas, maybe after losing their own job to one.
They are also increasing the wage floors for h1bs. Double-whammy.
@a6 American workers cost much more, plain and simple. Dell will simply pay the $100K fees for the most part. Yes, it will absolutely drove Jeff "OPEX" Clarke to insanity. But ultimately Dell will naturally blame the resultant drop in profits (or profit loss) on these new fees.
@cb Tariffs.
no. stop with the companies will move overseas nonsense. This is fear mongering by those affected and mid wits.
It is also to stop the flooding of lower skilled into the country. To curtail all the visa/h1b fraud.
You bring one in, you bring family and both sets of in-laws. This is a first-step in stopping all that.
I suspect there will be more. this is just the beginning.
That’s exactly what’s happening. This has been in the works for years, there was even an email circulating about a decade ago outlining the plan to boost “cooperation” in India. The problem is, the risks are massive, yet they’re still pushing it forward, step by step.
As more capital continues to be shifted to India, there’s a real possibility that conditions will be attached before any of it can flow back to the U.S.
Not going to bankrupt dell. Dell will just have its workforce stay in Ind3ua instead of coming to the US.
Why won't they just move the offices to India? No need for H1B visas for workers in an office in India. Seems like this could end up being worse for the US workers.
so much of the Indian skilled labor flowing into US economy. Mody wants to be chum with Xi's China and Putin, as a result we deglobalize.
@OP
It's more than that.
Waiting for MD's "go america" post ....
Whatever happens tech will always win in the end. These douch bags will never pay American workers. America has the tech workers sh!t companies will go for fake degrees over years of experience and know how. Disgusting
lol.
What goes around comes around.
According to JC we have the portfolio, just not selling it correctly 🤣