Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

T move to Azure cloud is supposed to be about savings? Sure doesn't seem like it

So can someone explain to me how all the on prem to Azure cloud is supposed to save us tons of money?

yet we're being. asked to watch our cloud usage? wTF , who's making these decisions and have use peons deal with the financial repercussions. Sometimes I get the feeling those in leadership just care about deals and commissions ,.damn the consequences.

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Post ID: @OP+1gkvv8NK

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As a non-ATT Azure services user and support team member, I can tell you it Azure cloud services are not nearly as stable as MS and you employer's execs would have you believe. Teams, MEM, Office 365, AAD - nearly weekly one or more services report a customer-facing outage requiring a code rollback. I support MEM and Defender daily, and consistently find operational issues not discussed in the online "documentation". One issue after another as MS adds "features", then rolls them back. You can't undo the money spent, but I expect you could spend it more wisely. Cloud has never lived up to the hype.

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Post ID: @6bug+1gkvv8NK

If mobility puts their 5G core in Azure... and it's sold by microsoft as "Azure for operators" or whatever... how is that a business model for AT&T? They could also sell 5G core services to other companies and make money on it, right? How does T benefit from this? Do we get a cut?

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Post ID: @2nfi+1gkvv8NK

Microsoft certainly benefits from AZURE and the other products they are peddling and upper management is buying off of. Many in upper management are hoping to land a good technical job with Microsoft . . . they will be disappointed

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Post ID: @2jhc+1gkvv8NK

Most of corporate applications aren't e-commerce giant like Amazon. Are internal users going flood a certain system that demands massive scaling to meet the demand, probably not. There are some operational opportunities for migrating from on prem to cloud, will the company take full advantage, probably not. Cloud is just another badge, migrated applications will survive another day.

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Post ID: @1frs+1gkvv8NK

I'm going to date myself here, but...Do you remember back in the early 90's when the big push was to move from huge mainframes to a distributed "client-server" model? How about the subsequent push move everything to the web? And then the push to break up monolithic applications into micro-services?

And now, we're pushing to put everything on 'the cloud'? Just about every other industry has been chasing one application architecture after another. Our frantic rush out to the cloud is nothing different, and I fully suspect that in 5-10 years, we'll be rushing off to another architecture.

Bringing things closer to home... Remember the rushed implementation of CSI? How about the way-too-soon adoption of things like Model to Execution (M2E)? Or Model Driven Architecture (MDA)? Or Cloud Deliver Platform (CDP)? Or Application Authorization Framework (AAF)?

In each situation, leadership was sold a vision of a future where everything would be beautiful and unicorns would freely roam the earth. In each case, the manifested reality was nothing close to what was promised. By the time that was apparent, the folks who sold the concept, and the leaders that had bought into it, had all received their accolades, promotions, and bonuses, and they had all moved onto the next big concept, leaving in their wake a heaping pile of clean up work.

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Post ID: @1aah+1gkvv8NK

I am pretty sure that the cloud is here to stay, weather one likes it or not. Nobody wants to invest in infrastructure any more. But instead of lamenting, jump in and learn everything you can. The skills are highly marketable outside of AT&T.

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Post ID: @1jer+1gkvv8NK

I would buy some MSFT stock,MSFT Azure is going to fleece T with constant recurring price increases , and T will be helpless to do anything. Azure is like a rock motel, they check in but they don't check out.

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Post ID: @1ovx+1gkvv8NK

Who cares? I’m working on projects to move applications to azure and we have work for 3 years at least. That’s good news for us, I no longer feel worried about layoffs every quarter. Life is good.

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Post ID: @1jiv+1gkvv8NK

this cloud stuff isn't cheap. I think it is overrated personally.

glad my company is creating our own internal cloud where no one gets access to our customer information.

our stock price is responding like it likes that approach.

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Post ID: @cls+1gkvv8NK

Some savings come by selling data center property and laying off data center staff. Long term savings is when VM usage will fluctuate during off hours and no recurring data center cost. But the Azure platform is unstable and subject to resource issues when other apps need them. And the cost of moving apps there is astronomical.

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Post ID: @bip+1gkvv8NK

How would you even know?

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Post ID: @xat+1gkvv8NK

The invite way to save money with cloud is to turn down the VMs when you don't need them. Let the vendor worry about owning and maintaining all the hardware needed for your surge capacity. If you're trying to run the server at full load 24x7, cloud will cost at least as much as running it yourself.

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Post ID: @amd+1gkvv8NK

Well - its one way to find the true cost of IT ops/hardware. IT was charging thousands of dollars per gb of disk space. The over head was crazy. But agree - the microserivce movement is smoke and mirrors and will cost more over time.

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Post ID: @dfr+1gkvv8NK

Nope. Stankey ok'd selling Network Cloud and all the people to Microsoft and moving IT to Azure. And he's still here. Donovan, et all did AIC. That's dead.

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Post ID: @yyn+1gkvv8NK

All the suits who pushed this stupidity are retired Fete, Stine, Donovan. The azure business case is a fiasco

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