Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

In some states insubordination can be a terminable offense and you might be prevented from collecting unemployment.

Yes as a manager I can if egregious enough like hitting someone etc. Otherwise need to take adequate steps to document.

I think for your average folks it is a very lengthy process requiring lots of documentation. unless you do somthing totally against policy there has to be a paper trail. WF needs to cover their a$$ for when you sue. as for your review of your manager, don't give it to him, send it to his boss and above.

Wells Fargo HR EAC EthicsLine and those higher-ups wont care and they will force you to leave. Any concerns about Wells Fargo management breaks the laws. inside fraud, corruption and illegal business practices, you should talk to attorneys, law enforcement, Los Angeles Times and WSJ reporters and news channels.

They hardly ever fire anyone anymore. There are several I know that SHOULD have been fired over the years but the company don’t have the cajones because they are afraid of being sued.

Instead, they lay off people they find out they needed later when things go to he-l in a hand asker. Happened at Chase too. Coinicdence?

They can fire you . File a report wit HR telling them he has created a hostile work environment. If they fire you, say it’s retaliation

OP. Do it. do it ASAP. Don’t wait

Don’t be a sheeple! Do that you feel is right for you! ... and only You!!! Not WF, not this manager of yours.

He can’t fire you on the spot because he’s mad at you, but he can make your life miserable. Why not just keep your head down, do your job, and just power through the next year? It will go by fast and then one fine day you can flip the guy the bird, quit and walk out.

Keep your eyes on the prize.

Easy paycheck for another year or so

You sound like a great employee. Trying to destroy manager and get easy paycheck. Dead weight walking

You throw him under the bus if he fires you put your big pants on and deal with it.

I would not advise that you provide a written evaluation on his poor leadership, he could lower your rating, give you a lower bonus, etc. It could also create more misery for you in your last 18 months.

You could go about it another way and ask him, "why do you think so many people are leaving?" If he says, "for another job", ask him "but what is prompting them to look?".

If he's doing something unethical, you can always report him.

Simple answer- yes they can fire you. They’ll work with HR to document something justifiable (be careful about insubordination btw) and while there is a process, it’s certainly not unheard of. Now if you’re a protected class it will take longer most likely unless your area is in range for layoffs. Then they’ll just put you at top of the list for the next round they can. For those that think your own manager has no say in layoffs you’re incorrect. It has to be your direct and their manager for sign off..

Firing people (not for blatant cause) is not a simple task at any big company.

Your manager would show your review of them to their boss and call it insubordination (which it may or may not be - it depends on your wording).

First-level managers can't just fire people autonomously. Maybe if they saw you setting the building on fire, but even then they'd be firing you with the hope that their bosses and HR don't flip out.

All your manager can do is get their boss on board with firing you, and their boss may or may not want the headache/risk, especially if they know you're nearing retirement. Your boss's boss would likely tell them to just wait out your retirement.