I'm not sure how new employment works in regards to severance - is there a time frame that has to pass before a person who has been laid off can start working at another company? I mean, without risking their severance package? Is there any... — read more 

I am moving on from SAP. But I want to first thank all the R/2, R/3, ECC developers and product managers of the entire suite. You made the SAP product that was excellent German engineering, integrated, functioning, and gave SAP a loyal following of... — read more 

Perhaps there is some pressure to show a clear path forward just before the SAP Q2 results. Some interesting articles popped up with ‘perfect’ timing! https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sap-initiates-comprehensive-review-accelerate-050100988.html... — read more 

I wonder when will SAP leadership realize that laying people off in droves is not a good business strategy? That it is something that provides a short-term bump in profits but ends up destroying the company in the end, which results in no profit at... — read more 

When the management teams noticed that the numbers are not meeting their expectations, they will consult with the incompetent and unethical HR teams to come up with a "right sizing" strategy. They will cut the long term, fully competent employees... — read more 

Since numbers were not hit in Germany due to works council rejecting layoffs, SAP has approved another round of 1500+ in Q2. Target areas are high cost ( US, Canada, UK).

SAP does not believe in employee development and re-training that would help them grow and expand within the company. The only type of fluffy training they are offered are skills such as lean and design thinking. Just take a look at the performance... — read more 

"SAP has realised that it needs to shift its strategy and their priorities," analyst Josh Greenbaum of Enterprise Applications Consulting told CMSWire, adding that HANA is no longer a differentiator in the enterprise marketplace. One part of the... — read more 

Is it possible that stealth layoffs are still happening in different parts of the company? Given there are multiple worldwide locations SAP is almost idle to perform that kind of strategy by the leadership. I would like if people reported were there... — read more 

I keep hearing rumors that SAP is about to announce they will certify S4 on Oracle and IBM databases. The feedback from SAP services and partners is that migrations are way too complex and expensive because of HANA architecture and that finally SAP... — read more 

Sure anyone can apply for anything but you won’t get hired....unless you are well connected. SAP has imposed a 2 year wait for all impacted before then can be hired (even as a c-user). In 2015, it was a 1 year wait. If it truly was the roles/jobs... — read more 

Is this normal? As soon as the RSU’s were paid out, it was a mad rush out the door and now it is a ghost town here. Do they know something we don’t? Not just leadership team, it seems like almost every director and manager and even rank and file are... — read more 

I heard one of the laid off guys was told he can reapply at SAP - pretty much immediately. If this is true, I can't understand why this would be a thing. Why would you lay off somebody just to invite them right back in? What exactly is SAP achieving... — read more 

The level of people they cut at from HANA at SAP, from Lukert to rock stars like Thomas Jung, signal a real step away from HANA to anyone who is watching. They also made S4 much to difficult for established SAP users to migrate to, it's way too much... — read more 

https://www.zdnet.com/article/sap-veteran-robert-enslin-joins-google-cloud/

Folks, if you're wondering why the heck the posts on this SAP layoff board (and Oracle's) have veered way off layoffs and turned into a dump of mean-spirited accusations, distortions, and attempts to fish for information, keep this in mind. There are... — read more 

Be careful what you post.

Packages were sent out around April 1st. For workers over 40, they contained the age and job title of those affected and those not, in accordance with the OWBPA. Stupid question, how are they able to provide this list on April 1 if employees have... — read more 

You will never have job security in any US Corporation! SAP is not much different than other large companies. The only protection for SAP employees is in Germany where the Works Council protects most of their employees. However, this restructuring... — read more 

I have worked for many companies and SAP's HR department is the worse!! There is no accountability within the team, only the low end workers are doing something meaningful. The leaders and HRBPs are totally useless - instead of focusing on helping... — read more 

S/4HANA was launched in 2015 with the biggest marketing campaign in enterprise software history. The CEO called S/4HANA "The fastest growing product in SAP history". Yet to date, not a single large SAP customer moved from ECC to S/4. Not a single... — read more 

I'm wondering if job security will ever again be a thing at SAP? There were always some layoffs here, but what we have seen in the last month is in a league of its own. I'm starting to think we've reached a point where we'll always have the... — read more 

SAP is not a safe as earlier. Successfactor and Ariba technologies inside SAP are treated separately and layoffs are very common here. 4400 people across SAP has been forcefully layoff by giving the name voluntary retirement. People who has joined... — read more 

Are people who have been laid off in the past month or so already looking for new jobs? If yes, how is the search doing?

And I’m talking about specific info about EU locations. Other than that we are well past the point of any location being safe. Has anybody heard about anything being planned recently?

HANA is goner, too expensive, and in-memory is widely available at cheaper prices S/4HANA is goner, it runs on HANA and there is little functional enhancements over ECC. ROI questionable. Most customers who hold the license do it due to license... — read more 

"The Spanish employees are always the first and easy targets to get rid. Try it in Germany , France and Italy ...." Spain and UK are always first, together with countries in EE and CIS, because of the very permissive labour laws. There will be more... — read more 

At my US location we were hit pretty hard, but for some time now nothing is happening. Don’t want to sound naive put can we assume now that the layoffs are done, at least in the context of big organized waves? If that is not the case, I suppose a... — read more 

Read the SAP Leadership Announcement here https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sap-leadership-announcement-morgan-and-fox-martin-expand-responsibilities-as-enslin-departs-300825618.html

https://www.brightworkresearch.com/ahmedazmi/2019/03/31/what-is-different-about-the-q1-2019-sap-and-oracle-layoffs/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/allbusiness/2018/04/14/16-key-issues-in-negotiating-an-employment-severance-package/#393cea5176b2

SAP went all in on HANA, and is clearly reversing course now. What went wrong? 1) A zero response DB - not true at all 2) HANA doesn't need any DBA/Basis people to run - not true at all 3) HANA runs on any platform/OS there are no restrictions - not... — read more 

No rumors at my location in Germany, but keeping in mind the state that we’re in and the fact that US locations got hit recently, I figure it’s just a matter of time before the layoffs spill back to Europe again. Has there been any word on potential... — read more 

After several of my posts deleted, i am not coming here anymore. I can get these information from twitter or any public website.

I know of 2 SAP colleagues who sign up for the JP Morgan Run, just to show that they are enthusiastic about the company. They were very upset at the lay-off but had to show give their best smile and be good corporate citizens. It’s a hard life when... — read more 

I have been following this thread and noticed many posts are being removed. Is SAP monitoring this site? Is this site deleting posts at their request? Just curious if this is a free speech site as claimed or not?

Any indication on what offices could be hit next? Judging by everything It seems that these layoffs won’t be over any time soon. So, any indication who could be next on the chopping block?

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/27/tech-layoffs-to-top-1000-in-bay-area-by-late-may-state-reports-show/amp/

I see that posts here have slowed down - should I take that as a good sign that layoffs are over for now? Or is this simply calm before the storm and we are about to be hit with another round or three? What can I say, the last month at SAP has made... — read more