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The U.S. Department of Labor announced that PERM labor certification processing has been suspended for eight technology and IT services companies: Capgemini, Infosys, Adobe, HCL Technologies, Microsoft, Tata Consultancy Services, Cognizant and Wipro. The suspension covers both new and pending applications.

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/6136675-vance-suspends-microsoft-perm/


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Post ID: @OP+1m4ej2bad

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US politicians have failed us. The only thing people agree on is that healthcare is too expensive and the 40 trillion deficit will bankrupt the country. Politicians don't even talk about fixing these dire problems.

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Post ID: @141+1m4ej2bad

@11e Sadly, US politicians can be bought easily and prefer personal gain to national strength.

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Post ID: @13h+1m4ej2bad

Optics for mid term elections. This is all that it is. They could have done this months ago.

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Post ID: @137+1m4ej2bad

@zm H1-B and Offshoring went hand in hand. Getting in power positions, only hiring same, made offshoring possible. Now that phase 1 is done, a removal of an H1-B is an addition of 3 offshore. They don’t care anymore. They got things where they want it for Phase 2.

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Post ID: @11e+1m4ej2bad

@zk No, do not listen to this person.

They are trying to detract messaging. It is called misdirection and is a strategy.

H-1B Visa program in America IS THE problem that needs to be addressed.

Going after offshoring is a fool’s errand and needs to be left to Congress or Executive branch to set such strong tariffs that offshoring is handled. You snd I cannot have any effect in that arena.

BUT WE CAN speak out on H-1B Visa program abuse until we are heard and a bill is passed by Congress to get rid of the program altogether.

H-1B Visa program is no longer needed, as there are plenty of American citizens that can perform the duties of the roles. In fact, there is more American citizens with technical background out of work than their are roles to be filled.

H-1B Visa program needs to be abolished, via a congressional bill, now!

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Post ID: @zm+1m4ej2bad

Folks please consider the alternative to H-1B's. Elevance will just move more departments to Carelon India, or worse yet, outsource them entirely to UST, Cognizant, Deloitte, etc who will staff the roles with offshore labor within a year.

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Post ID: @zk+1m4ej2bad

All this outsourcing and our health experience is at an all time low. Rational is to keep cost low, but I’m not seeing it. All we see is the financial sheet favoring the executive team.

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Post ID: @vw+1m4ej2bad

In addition, Pew Research Center Estimates the total number of unauthorized Indian immigrants at roughly 680,000 to 725,000. Based on their total estimate of 14 million unauthorized immigrants, Indian nationals account for nearly 4.8% of the total population, making them the third-largest origin group after Mexico and El Salvador.

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Post ID: @vm+1m4ej2bad

@v9 - stats make it clear
• India: ~71% of approved H-1B beneficiaries (with numbers historically fluctuating between 71% and 78% depending on the fiscal year).
• China (Mainland): ~12% (the second-largest group).
• Other Countries: All other countries combined make up the remaining ~17% (with individual countries like Canada, the Philippines, and South Korea representing roughly 1% each).

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Post ID: @vk+1m4ej2bad

Normally, I use terminology in saying Non-Americans instead of so bluntly saying Indians.

But I feel that when we say that non-American citizens need to be deported, our Federal Government is thinking Latinos, not Indians.

Well, at least where I live, some illegal immigrant Latino picking strawberries in the fields being deported due to not being a citizen does not impact me and my family’s economy.

No, what does affect me and my family’s economic wellbeing is the Indian Director that pushed me out of my Engineer role so that he could then hire more Indians in his department. And in all honesty, I had been with the company so long and learned so much, I would have made a much better Director than him.

Point is, we need to start making it crystal clear to this Administration as to exactly who we want deported. And that is those adversely impacting the upper echelon high paying office jobs. And at this time, that just happens to be largely the population from India.

Had nothing to do with their skin color nor race. Has totally to do with whatever population, at this point in time of history, that is most impacting American lives, financial futures, and quite frankly America’s data protections.

I would feel exactly the same if the population adversely impacting American citizens were from Australia, Britain, Germany, Iceland, Greenland, or wherever.

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Post ID: @v9+1m4ej2bad

Starter homes are now going for $500 million dollars. Gas prices now over $4 a gallon. Electricity bills going up due to Data centers. Groceries are higher.

So, with all that said, can we really afford to so easily be giving our $100k+ office American jobs away to Indians???!!!!

Please, think it through. Not spreading hate. I would have the same stance if white Australians or white Britains were taking our jobs.

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Post ID: @v4+1m4ej2bad

AMERICAN JOBS are stake here! Not talking jobs in the fields here. I am talking the good paying $100k+ jobs that you can only get at these large corporations.

Do you really want to simply easily hand these jobs over to the Indian population without even any pushback?!

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Post ID: @v3+1m4ej2bad

@v1 Well, I don’t care. I for one will not be voting at all until this administration starts shipping Indians home and stops the H-1B Visa program altogether.

This has nothing to do with any disliking of Indians. That is not the case, at least not with me. I just think the H-1B Visa program is being used as a back door for obtaining citizenship. They should go back home and apply snd go through the proper immigration process like everyone else.

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Post ID: @v2+1m4ej2bad

@tx - the administration supported H1-B not that long ago. The goal post moved with the tech advances and now it’s safe to take a moot point and work it to your advantage. Tech companies now have the means to ship jobs at scale, so American companies have decided on nation building. They have the capital of most countries so now they get to play the role of government.

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Post ID: @v1+1m4ej2bad

@tx I always wonder how Vance can honestly say he wants to go after H-1B Visa program and perhaps end it. And yet is wife is Indian. Because of that, I am not sure whether I really believe him.

Also, Kash Patel was made FBI Director and he is Indian. So, it just makes me question if this administration is really honestly trying to stop H-1B Visa program.

I think now they are all talk and no show.

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Post ID: @v0+1m4ej2bad

@tx Starting to agree that it is just a show, probably for votes, with no real intentions on putting American’s employment first.. I voted for this administration but I am also starting to see that putting a real dent in reducing American job displacement from the H-1B Visa policy abuse and the outsourcing of jobs to India and Philippines.

I think they are only interested in shipping latino community back to their countries if not a citizen. Which is a shame because I really like the latino community and they are hard workers and do many jobs others do not want to do.

What I and now I think most others want and see as a problem with our office jobs, is people from Middle East countries. Also, people that have historically done very bad things in our borders tend to be from Middle East countries. That is where we want this administration to go after. Not some poor latino working in the fields.

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Post ID: @tz+1m4ej2bad

Data Companies like Databricks have implemented Federated Learning and edge computing with Clean Rooms allowing Sharing Weights, Not Records: Instead of transmitting raw health records, the local server sends back only encrypted mathematical parameters and gradients (the "lessons learned") to a central coordinator. This is the plan to work around PHI/PHI. American companies are he-l-bent on shipping out labor. Only IT job left in the US will be Hacking.

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Post ID: @ty+1m4ej2bad

@tw yeah, this just shows that the action taken by the admin will do nothing to help. Just for show

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Post ID: @tx+1m4ej2bad

NY Times states … Driven by U.S. domestic tech talent shortages, total employment within these multinational hubs is projected to add another 600,000 to 900,000 workers by 2030 … with a Shift to "High-Value" Tasks, advanced AI workloads, chip design, cybersecurity, and global financial auditing.

We train/trained our replacement(s).

1.5 million+ workers is the total if counting U.S.-headquartered tech and consulting multinationals that heavily lean on an Indian workforce footprint (e.g., Cognizant, which is U.S.-headquartered but houses over 250,000 of its employees in India.

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Post ID: @tw+1m4ej2bad

@e2 its not, they can still hire h1bs they just dont get perm status. Also ceos are just going to outsource more instead of bringing h1bs in. To stop it, they need to do a lot more.

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Post ID: @tt+1m4ej2bad

@j0 India the majority of their oil from Iran.

Google it.

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Post ID: @jw+1m4ej2bad

We sanctioned countries like India for buying Russian oil and now, we are buying Russian Oil. Also, we should start focusing on our country by withdrawing our troops from Asia so the asians who live here can go back to their countries.

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Post ID: @j0+1m4ej2bad

This is such a success that all of these Indian companies together filed 56 petitions in the fiscal year 2026. Microsoft, Amazon and Google are all planning GCCs and Data Centers in India.

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Post ID: @hz+1m4ej2bad

Good news finally.

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Post ID: @e2+1m4ej2bad

@dg Totally agree! It still bewilders how others don’t get this elementary point.

I don’t want to make this political but it seems like it is one particular side that just goes counterculture to this mentality.

I rather doubt any such persons ever served in the military or they would think much differently than they currently do and would end up agreeing with is. Had I known we had so many unpatriotic people in America, I probably would have had second thoughts about serving in the military.

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Post ID: @dw+1m4ej2bad

@dd exactly! Unless it is supporting a US base or embassy abroad all Federal contracts should be supported in the US with citizen employees. Why are US tax dollars going to support families in India and the Philippines?

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Post ID: @dg+1m4ej2bad

They should do an audit of any company that has a government contract.

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Post ID: @dd+1m4ej2bad

Now we just need to get rid of this company and its dirty dealings.

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Post ID: @d7+1m4ej2bad

This is HUGE!!

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