Its going to be bad
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"In reality, those who TUPE will realise how much better it is working for CG and CC"
This shows dxc's true intent .
Constantly treat your employees badly and after a few years of poor working, the employee's CV shows what dxc wants - the employee is no use to man or beast.
Theres no threat of excellent resource being tupe'd away to the competition and because dxc didn't give a payrise, they become cheaper every year for CG and CC to immediately WFR when they take over.
They all do it
In reality, those who TUPE will realise how much better it is working for CG and CC and those that stay are going to really highlight what little effort DXC put into incidents and projects compared to other vendors.
@z3 It's all legacy because BAE won't upgrade anything unless they absolutely have to. The policy is essentially: don't touch it, then it can't break! Don't suggest improvements — improvements require changes, changes break things, and the cycle repeats.
They silo staff and won't let people move on. Eventually, people give up. Yes, we're all pushing our mid-50s, but when there's nothing interesting to do, don't ask why people get bored, wander off, and aren't available when they're actually needed.
Filling in paperwork and attending status calls to confirm we've still got no work since the last status call around four hours ago isn't what we signed up for! Fed up get no pay rise, next move VR!
The policy drives this - not bad, lazy, stupid or incompetent staff.
dxc and bae have the same problem - employees pushing retirement age with cr*p legacy skills.
The best thing is to make it someone else's problem, and thats why these poor people get tupe'd (sold off) for free
@te They took people so desperate to leave DXC that they were walking out the door either way.
Yet let those content enough to stay at the time to start hating it. Which lead to not caring, which has lead to not doing much.
If they'd taken most of us years back. We'd probably be happy? Bae do give auto pay rises and wages are set and published on a grade system. It feels fair and equal.
DXC forgot people like to progress. And will happily pay you the same salary for 10 years, yet hire at market rate.
Funny really because a big load of BAE staff are ex CSC and ex DXC
BAE didn't really have any choice BUT to keep DXC for hosting, we have most of their critical infrastructure hostage in our datacenters and you know we'd sabotage either deliberately or through incompetence if they tried to migrate out
Remember that DXC is the same company that willingly let customer infrastructure lapse on backup support because it was cheaper to pay service penalties than it was to pay for vendor support
Its why you waste your money dealing with MSPs, yeah its cheaper for short term but in the long term you get absolutely rammed up the backend
The Big B thinks they’re adding resilience by having countless different companies involved in their systems. One could fail and they’d still have five other IT suppliers ready to fill the gap.
What they’ve actually created is a working environment where, if one supplier fails, they could be completely stuck because everything is so intertwined, yet siloed and operated on a need-to-know basis.
Meanwhile, they’re quite happy to have DXC staff doing very little, paying out a small fortune that we never see, and then wonder why we don’t really care when something does need doing.
So BAE internal IT is being chopped up and palmed off to other suppliers?
BAE staff are sooo fu---d. They’ll be booted out as soon as they cross the corridor if it’s true.
All those 5% pay rises they complained about….
Computacenter are alright
Capgemini are kind of alright
Working with either should be fine
Feel bad for Capg and BAE staff who tupe to DXC though
Just to set people at ease, Google "Project perseus bae layoffs"
Project Perseus is BAE Systems' internal IT and digital transformation and outsourcing program, which has involved vendor transitions (such as moving service desk and end-user computing contracts to providers like Capgemini and Computacenter) rather than a discrete, major company-wide layoff event.
💡 Understanding Project Perseus
• IT Re-bidding: BAE restructured its internal IT services, transitioning portions like the service desk and end-user computing (EUC) to external suppliers.
• TUPE Transfers: Many impacted internal IT roles were expected to fall under TUPE (Transfer of Undertakings Protection of Employment) regulations, moving staff to incoming vendors rather than resulting in outright redundancies.
• Ongoing Restructuring: Broader BAE workforce changes are typically tied to operational workload adjustments or specific site manufacturing demands rather than Project Perseus directly.
I'll take the former please. I've had no work out of this account in months now. I assume we are only being retained for insurance until the deal is done, or perhaps we've been totally forgotten about. It's certainly the usual everything done as slowly as possible process. They'll eventually get round to me but are still only up to the E's in the alphabet.
made redundant or transferred under TUPE
Yes applied castor oil to the backside.