They sent an email re buildings A and B in Chandler. What do you think, will we get a stupid open office design with no cubicles, or a layout that will cram us in further so that we can all come in 5 days/week? Both? I loathe the open office setup, it's so distracting.
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@15j+1ks0x6dyz - Care to share more detail about your new meaningful career and why you think this may have taken you so long to find?
This site is for fools that still work for this amzingly awful company. Happier than ever since I was displaced two years ago and started a career that means something
@te but people just had to leave the house. A couple people ventured out, then a few more and so on. So annoying we could have kept that going on forever. As an introvert I enjoyed it
FRTO. None of us ever should have done it. HY will eventually lay us all off, but they weren't yet able to do it in 2022. If not a single person had come in, we could have stopped it. Unfortunately Shart has been building a legion of bootlickers since he got here and we're all Fd because of it.
@pt or go around and open cans of sardines in people's desk drawers. Or start leaving potatoes and onions in areas where nobody would ever suspect or reach.
@dc I overheard a conversation between two people once and posted online using no specifics of who or what they were or the topics, but somehow a person thought i was talking about them. Next thing I know a leader was asking me about it a couple weeks later. Sigh.Women.
@e4 RTO should have never happened.
@e6 somebody could just go around sprinking bags of pepper all over the office floors.
We've nothing from being remote and/or covid. It's a wonder another pandemic hasn't hit us again. Forget all this virus talk in the news lately.
But when something else catastrophic hits again, it's going to be bad because of attitudes of people towards it. Trust had been broken.
I’m going to switch from morning to evening showers and smell so bad plus I’ll keep microwaving the fish I meal prepped on Sunday for lunch.
To the jagoffs in Chandler that keep running into me on a daily basis - WATCH where you're going. If you get shoulder blocked it's your fault.
We're just livestock to Charlie. MOOOOOOOO
@e4 yeah Open office is fu--ing miserable. It is literal torture. I want to see shart, Kane and the rest at the top work elbow to elbow packed together like cattle.
@a1
Changes for the worst to the work environment are a large consideration for many of us. At some point some of us will walk out (self-layoff). How much can you tolerate? Unassigned, carbon-copy work spaces? No partitions between you and other coworkers? Hard to find parking? Crammed commute?
@dq nah man. RTO is one thing, but open office seating especially with people you don't know surrounding you, is straight up poison to productivity. Some people might have a role or a personality where they can live with this, but if you're at all introverted or in a role where tasks require deep focus, there's no growing into accommodating this sh-t, you're just going to be taking a permanent hit to productivity and quality of work life. There's a reason these office designs have been thoroughly discredited.
That said, Charlie is also resurrecting long-discredited management practices like stack ranking, so this is totally on brand for Wells.
Both you and the execs need to work on your logic. There's not 2 choices, there's at least 3 and, in fact, 3 is the most likely outcome in this market.
Chandler might want to add some showers on the 3rd floor as It seems some folks don't have time in the morning to take one.
The best part of open seating is being able to hear other calls and background chatter when listening to someone on teams. I'm remote, but when one of my colleagues speaks I can hear at least 1-2 other conversations in the background when they're in the office.
Everyone will survive the new seating. Not happy at first but everyone will adapt. If not then those will find new jobs. It will be a big change but if you don’t have e a choice you will adapt. You should anticipate that the office design is exactly what the concept is in SF
Bench seating hasn't come to my building yet (knock on wood), if it does that would likely be the final straw for me. I already find it hard to focus working in office and have to wear giant noise cancelling headphones and take other steps to protect my sanity. Before Wells I worked in an open office setting for about a year and the degree to which it blunted my effectiveness was shocking. And that was an open office with at least assigned seats and small dividers between workstations, and neighbors I actually knew and worked with, and liked their company to some degree. A fully open office, with no assigned seating, with all my interactions over teams with people in other places, sounds legitimately like torture. Which I'm sure is Charlie's intention. If so, well done I guess there is a point where the salary and PTO accumulation would no longer be worth it to me.
Every single decision from HY, including office design, has one objective: motivate people to quit. New layout doesn't make sense? All part of their plan. They want to make working here intolerable. There's no other considerations.
@a1 news flash-- we have layoffs every two weeks.
Yeah, we are going to get the desks facing each other and 2 feet from your neighbor with no dividers. It's going to be like 333 market. They're finally actually doing work on one of the floors. When we go to that stupid new seating, I'm out.
In Chandler You can’t go in the bathroom without being nailed by the door half the time. You can’t walk down the halls without dodging people left and right because they are so narrow. A select few take all the offices and conference rooms all day every day. So you’re stuck out on noisy floors with fools who talk so loud on their supposed important calls. Most people are on their phones instead of working.
This. Also since our leadership is not honest or transparent with us it is a good source of information on topics that people actually care about.
You'll be getting bench seating. So, yes, you'll be crammed in further. Basically no offices besides focus and conference rooms.
@a1 this site is for sh-t-talking Wells as a coping mechanism for burnout. The company-wide burnout was triggered by half a decade of layoffs, but still. Layoff discussion is kind of a side dish at this point.
The WF sub has sky-high engagement compared to other companies. There's better intel available on this sub because of how frequently WF employees visit here. You want good layoff information, you got to live with the side topics
@OP .This site is for Wells Fargo layoff information.