Has anyone heard if anything would happen if you just don’t obliged with the RTO mandate?
I know way too many people on my floor who just stopped showing up or decided to have hybrid schedule themselves
Are they going to impact your bonuses/raises or something? Tell you to go back into the office? Is it manager discretion?
Some managers are scared of being punished so they make their team go in. While others don’t care as long as you get your work done
Seems like most things in this company. Get all worked up about something, thrash it around with lack of communications and clarity so that employees wonder what is going on, and then conveniently forget about it while moving onto the "next big thing." I have heard absolutely zero about RTO, but I will be genuinely surprised if we don't hear of some big reorg before year end and then maybe the start of some downsizing in 2027.
@qz I love the fear mongering the managers throw at us. Honestly I think the pressure comes from the higher ups but who really gives a sh!t where it comes from. It’s childish and unprofessional. Since when does in person attendance impact performance? Oh wait I see, the in office distractions are what k!lls performance. Makes sense now.
5 days in office but for how long, what if leaving early?
@qz which division are you in?
Its only gonna get worse when weather gets bad.
Our division still has a strict 5 days in office mandate and says that not complying will have a direct impact on end of year performance reviews. People are quietly expressing their unhappiness to each other and also in responses to those surveys the company puts out there.
I go in because I live close, but my manager in my 1:1 (who WFM) said "are you still going in 5 days week? Just do three." Usually I just go in Mon-Thurs in the morning and WFH and WFH on Friday. Nobody cares, but I'm sure some managers do.
@ap well never know because they will ignore all that
“Has anyone heard if anything…..” no we only heard about Bill’s most recent book. RTO is not part of their spoken language. It’s only written in vague mass emails.
“Are they going to impact your bonuses/raises or something?“ WTF is a bonus/raise.
Hope next year we get an announcement of some help. But i doubt anything good comes. We will be left in the dark, and layoffs will come
Impact on raises? You mean I might lose my 0.75% raise if I don’t RTO? Cool, I’ll stay home and they can keep my sh*t raise
@fb The inconsistency is the most frustrating thing about this. It shouldn’t be up to individual managers if it’s supposed to be a mandate. The solution to this is really to just mandate and enforce a hybrid schedule for all employees in market.
Entirely depends on the team. Some are just doing 2-3 days a week because the RTO backfired so hard.
It's been 6 months now. If they were going to say something, they would have. We have people who come in maybe once a month. Others who come in daily and most people do hybrid. By looking at the parking lot, we have about 25% of the total number of employees assigned to this location come in. Stop worrying about it. If they want to fire you, they don't need a reason.
Depends on the role and the manager of course, but AS a manager of an onsite team I have never been asked for, offered, or told of any swipe/key/mouse report that I could use to see what my team is doing. My only interest is team dynamics and I learned a long time a go that if you have a protected individual on your team who wants to buck the rules, the worst you can do is give meets all and 2%. Big miss by CEO to mandate RTO5. We lost a lot of good people over this, and for nothing.
@aw The turnover is already high after RTO in my LOB, that many teams are short handed, so seems like manager themselves don't care much about it, unless they hear anything from HR or executives directly.
I’ve gotten the impression that there hasn’t been any move to determine if people are complying or not. Which is crazy considering how much drama was made about this!
I just declared myself hybrid
"Bonuses"...?
Hr does have a log of badge swipes and there is no longer an official "hybrid" designation. You are either full time in office or you are remote. That being said, it seems like managers, especially in Technology and Operations, are not enforcing RTO because they have too much other work to worry about.
Unless your keystrokes are being logged, you are probably safe to WFH if your manager doesn't care
I’m very curious about what people had to say about RTO in the surveys.
They will say nothing for another week, month, or year. Who knows. They will keep track of swipe and IPs,
Then layoffs will come, they will use ignoring RTO as a reason to deny severance. Some people who are coming in will still get laid off. Some people who never come in will keep their jobs. Happens everywhere.
I haven’t heard a peep. I show up most days, I only WFH if I have a legitimate reason - sickness, appointment, etc. I also know way too many people on my floor who simply don’t go in. I’m waiting to see what and if anything happens, but it is getting to the point of - why am I complying if I can just WFH with no consequences like the vast majority.
I haven't shown up once. Nobody has said a thing.