Elon Musk just bought spectrum to be able to sell phone service. Most of Verizon customers are conservative and hate Verizon because of years of lying, outsourcing, over billing, and treating customers like sh-t and love Elon Musk for whatever reason good or bad. That’s why Verizon is desperately trying to eliminate employees and overhead. They know people will flock to Elon and SpaceX.
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@mh it’s true we have hundreds of bobble heads wandering around here at Temple Terrace that could leave tomorrow and have no impact on business. These people know that the good life that had here is over when they leave. They have no marketable skill set. We are imploding one day at a time
This thread should be renamed to
Verizon will destroy Verizon!
Incompetence of Verizon's top management is Verizon's biggest threat. Elon pales by comparison.
@nf exactly, so that's $10-15 billions in sunk cost for Verizon. License acquisitions alone were more than $5 billions.
Still pennies compared to staggering $52.9 billion Verizon spent in 2021 on C-Band spectrum alone.
Fast forward 5 years - cust cutting everything, HCL, layoffs, rebadging, international JV, etc. I think it's becoming clear that Verizon will never be able to fully recover and pay off a substantial amount of its enormous debt. Over the past few quarters, Verizon's quarterly interest expense rose to $2.0 billion.
So mmWave is just another chapter in the book of extraordinarily silly decisions Verizon made over the last decade.
@f2 That is not what the FCC has to say or the US government in General!
@mh So Musk is going to buy off all the city's and counties to give Musk a deal that the other three can't get? You know that is against the law right? 8-10 years to build a cell site in average in the USA. Xohm, Clearwire, Metro PCS, Dish, Nextel... they ALL tried to build a national network and where are they now, where is their massive networks covering all 50 States? Go on, fill us in to how great the Clearwire network is, of the Dish network and how many customers ride on those networks! Love to hear how great their stock is doing too!
@jk Considering mmW is being turned down and being replaced with Cband, yeah it's not being used! Nation wide SP and RF look at mmw mou and sunset many mmw cells. In our market is was over 80% and the fact is, in the IOP tool you can't even create a VWRS to have the mmw repaired, NO RMA's allowed as well.
Elon sux orange Cheeto's mushroom p3n1s !! #DeportElon
@jh really.???? How many employees at VZ. Are sending satellites to space, building rockets, and have outstanding electric vehicles or , even have the talent to be on those teams. lol. CAN U HEAR ME NOW
SpaceX Theme Song:
https://youtu.be/ELMOUGPEw2s?is=dAq05oBBuZPnq4C8
@OP I love chocolate.
mmw is not the cell network that
99.99% of people use
A great argument justifying why Verizon spent billions on it then.
@jb My mom would sometimes say that certain kinds of men suffer from verbal menses. It sounds like Chris is one of them.
@jb he worked himself up to vz management. Elon wouldn’t survive a year here
@br lol. Chris has been a talking head even years ago when I worked with him in a store on Long Island.
@f2 NFW!
Verizon noted there were still hurdles after SpaceX's spectrum purchase. "This company can have tons of spectrum available, but if they do not have the network to use it, it doesn't matter. It's just empty airwaves,"
@e2 It will when they takeover Vz’s infrastructure and use it for relays. It’s going to happen. Vz wireless will be no more by late 2027.
@cs there are areas all around inside the Hidden Ridge buildings where we can’t get VZ service and network even put sleds on the roof😪 it can’t be much worse than that!!!
@OP most of one of the nations largest telecommunications companies is conservative? I’ve seen d-mb posts here but this takes the cake. I didn’t realize people chose Verizon, T Mobile, At&T etc for political affiliations 🤦
@OP Try gaming on starlink... games such as WOT don't work on starlink! It's really for people that need basic internet where latency is not an issue. Online gaming, yeah... does not work so starlink will never be able to replace land or cell networks.
@cs mmw is not the cell network that 99.99% of people use. And yes, mmw works great inside where it actually works best, in things like basket ball arena's and convention centers. And, no voice traffic goes over mmw, not before, not now, not ever. My phone was screaming fast on mmw at the SAP center last year! Very impressive!
the Nazti Saluter KKKlown with another hype piece to get his cult a wet dream
@dn In logic, it is possible to derive any conclusion from a false premise (hypothesis).
"Starlink was supposed to destroy traditional Internet services too"
Ketamine Cowboy!!!! Yeeeee Haaaaw!! Another overpromise and under deliver pr announcement
Starlink was supposed to destroy traditional Internet services too, but it has barely made a dent in them. It is good service, but like most things Elon creates, it is priced out of the reach of a majority of people.
Also remember, Verizon owns a majority of the "last mile", copper and fibre connecting the different networks and LECs, so they will profit off whatever SpaceX does in some way.
@d6 most landline customers are rural elderly white trash so probably conservative but most verizon wireless customers are younger and alot more educated which coincides with liberal!
@c9 try using Verizon mmWave inside a building 🤦♂️
I have a revelation for you: it's just physics. Something that isn't taught in MBA or at Strayer but Elon actually studied physics and understands it.
Try using Starlink only inside any building of any kind or inside your car and then come back an report how Starlink is going beat any cell company!
Oh wow, what a brilliant line: “Elon will destroy Verizon.” Truly, a masterpiece of analysis.
Please. Verizon doesn’t need any help with that.
They’ve been working on it for years, and honestly, they’re doing a spectacular job.
The secret formula? Inept, arrogant, clueless, and thoroughly corrupt leadership. Groundbreaking stuff, I know.
And no, Elon isn’t going to buy a wireless carrier, let alone Verizon. Why would anyone pay billions to inherit a failing company ?
Love him or hate him, the man has a habit of actually doing the things he says he’ll do.
Meanwhile, I can practically smell the panic wafting out of the executive suites. Fear, desperation, a little cold sweat on the leather chairs. Honestly? Dan ! can you hear him now ?
@bb Chris flood was laughing at the space x news. He said running a telecom company is hard work
@OP most of verizon customers are conservative is the exact opposite of the truth. They literally couldn't more liberal!
I’m having a hard time believing that the guy who is literally launching rockets into space is somehow not going to be able to figure out how to set up a mobile network. We’ve been neglecting our network since long before the telecom bubble burst. Yes we’ve been progressing slowly. But we’ve become a tremendous money grab for external consulting firms to get rich. There’s a reason why Elon doesn’t use them unless he absolutely has to. In their place he hires real leaders who can make real decisions without 15 layer of cover and deflection. We are a joke. He’s coming for our lunch. And it’s about time someone tried to make real progress in the space.
I think thats great!!! Let’s get rid of middle management and get motivated by some serious competition. There are three major carriers already and now you throw Elon into the mix VZ could lose 25% of the pie. Could be where Dan is headed with a major downsizing.
@a9 Perhaps he is but before everybody said that landing a rocket was a silly fantasy. As of August 2026, six Falcon 9 boosters have passed the 30-landings mark and all relevant space companies are trying to catch up. Btw. the commercial price of 1 kg launched to LEO has plummeted by 85% to 95% between 2006 and 2026.
So if Elon is a grifter, I wonder what Dan is. A grifter sensei? A drag cowboy queen?
@a4 His documentary comes out soon, and even more will hate him.No wonder he and Cheeto were BFF's - not a spine between them. #DeportElon
@ag well said Fred
@af Act now to transform culture to deliver breakout performance! 😂
@ae wrong because decimate means to reduce by one tenth ("dec"-)
@OP Makes no sense. Nice try though.
Lot's of chatter. Realize Elon isn't the singular biggest threat. Plenty of Verizon competitors .
But the good news is the marketplace will pick winners. Just execute and focus on business and skip the mandated volunteer hours walking around BAsking Ridge HQ building.
Really not that hard how to embrace.