I can’t believe the whole ops leadership is from Roger’s communications and they are the worst leaders possible trying to be top dog creating duplication and headaches as if they know what the heck we all do. Better yet some have been here 5 months and already getting promotions to SR roles, yet the people that have been here for years working their butts off can’t get a raise. Idk how HR doesn’t see that
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@19a
Go eat your donuts and be a drag on another companies bottom line slack jaw. And in a year do it again and again and again
@1a5
Can you come back and post again when you’re not drunk and somewhat intelligible?
@188
So move on then. Why are you here complaining about accepting the scraps of people who have surpassed you? Obviously they are harder working and more talented. Perhaps you’re the reason you havnt moved on and up.
@19a
Not everyone wants to go on unemployment like you.
I am here coasting till I an laid off. My id--t manager believes me when I tell him I am swamped and loads the other chaps on the team. I know what my eventual fate is here. But knowing Lumen they will lay off some hardworking guy who actually cared. I am on solutioning calls and the Architects are silent lol some random go getter is trying to make the solution. 80% of Lumen is checked being run my some scared person going above and beyond to make sure not laid off. To them I salute you keeping us slackers to chill.
@110 by all means stay here.. the last thing I want is to move on start over and have someone like you following right behind me.. I’m sure there’s a few folk just like you where ever l end up ..but at least there won’t be a shared past .. so please. Please stay behind.. where I’m going your not invited!
@17f 🙄 the purpose of this thread was to discuss the goings on in Operations and how or why the newest of employees were being moved up the chain ahead of senior individuals..
your contribution to the conversation isn’t really germane, please try and stay on topic. This conversation is about people who are about making their own way in life.. not those who are just going to sit around and accept what ever scraps fall to the floor!
@15b
Choosing death is hopping to a new job every year because "this place su-ks". Sitting in a chair eating donuts and drinking cokes between calls. I like this guys attitude. He's right. Why leave? Why give up what this career has offered. Not everyone is a gig worker watching the calendar waiting for that magic day to go back on unemployment.
But hey, you do you big boy. The future is bright for guys like you.
@15b
Someone’s butt hurt
@110 so you’ve choose death! It’s certainly one of the options..
not everyone chooses that but it’s certainly your prerogative!
Best of luck.. there .. easy money!
@f6
My small increases added up to retiring at 55 two years ago. 30 years in telco. Didn’t need to jump jobs to hopefully make more…which also meant I wasn’t unemployed for months on end.
@fg
What if I just decide to stay til the end whenever that is? No one outside of the execs really know and they probably aren’t sure when that is. It’ll certainly come. Maybe a year, maybe 5 years. I have nothing to gain by leaving and nothing to lose by staying.
Everyone’s situation is different and it’s all about their perspective. But please continue to tell everyone what they HAVE to do all knowing seer.
@v2
Been saving money for 35 years. You think you came up with the idea? Lmao
Just friends hiring friends as basis of qualification
@v2
Good thing i was in position to retire last year. They can go ahead and lay me off or buy me out any day now. Maybe i'll contract back part time for the cash.
@mb
Some actual common sense on here for once...welcome to the awakening!
Save, save, save save....have I said it enough for those legacy employees in Operations??? Save, save, save
Another Microsoft SVP joining Lumen today.
It's 2025, Telco sector is dead! Shut her down and move on!
@mb Don't forget the new term shapeshifting.
The slogan for years was “the transformational journey”. This is the transformation. They never really defined what it was because they wanted the workers to keep showing up to work thinking they mattered. None of us mattered. If you weren’t in the executive suite or on the board you were expendable. From operations to sales to management we were all a number that could and will be erased.
Lumen wants rid of the legacy telco people because it’s not a Telco company anymore… it’s a IT company with legacy telco responsibility’s that it’s working really hard to shut down and be done with,
It’s as if Walmart had decided to leave the Retail sector and become a logistics company with its warehouses and trucking assets.. while they are busy with the process of disposing of the Stores.. they wouldn’t really be interested in retaining the folks with retail knowledge and experience..
Lumen has pretty much changed / jumped over to a different industry!
Time to
evolve, migrate or die,
Exactly, they are going to get rid of the pre-Kate, “life was so much better, we are the smartest Telco people in the industry” folks. Management knows if you have not moved on from Lumen you aren’t really ambitious about your career. Professionals that make the most money push themselves to learn more and from other companies. A legacy Telco professional that stays with the same company for whole career will never seen salary gains. Telco professionals that move from installs to service to sales…etc. at a variety of companies, will see ending salaries at $190k-$250k easy. With same company you may get small increases or none at all.
@OP In my opinion, based on My Observations..
the goal of the leadership is to expunge as many individuals as possible, who would have been on board prior to Kate’s tenure as CEO,
Every one who was with lumen prior to Kate, is simply considered a Legacy employee .. a Legacy that the Board of directors is trying to be done and over with!
I keep hearing the leadership says, “We can’t move forward with these people who are always looking back and lamenting over the past”
@da sorry different academy. This and project coordinator just listed too. Lots of them.
ASSOCIATE ENGINEER - E-C-O ACADEMY
Location WINTER GARDEN, Florida, United States of America Category University & Entry Level Job Id 339055
Managing budgets, ordering materials, processing invoices, and resolving issues related to OSP projects. Working with networking optical hardware, such as transponders, amplifiers, switches, routers,...
@as OPS Academy? That isn't still a thing is it? I think I would know in my position.
It's the Peter Principle at work.
Operations is much weaker now than it was two years ago. It's sad to watch.
@OP and the newbies in the ops academy have jobs waiting for them.
Why aren't employees with the training and experience now getting first chance at those jobs.
We know the newbies won't last long. And all that training will be for nothing.
It's the old Lumen way, people that have dirt on someone who have no idea what they are doing get promoted up, and still have no clue. Like that lady who was overseeing the Fiber and know does some type of community relations fluff, she was terrible as a provisioning manager years ago