Just got a note to meet up with my manager tomorrow. Is the axe about to drop…. Anyone else get impromptu meetings set up for tomorrow? In cloud.
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@kh should've been done years ago. A--holes
@k5 % charged is based on the amount ABOVE the offered amount.
Most normal companies who have humans running them, negotiate this in advance with long term employees and everyone is happy on departure.
IBM letter is only an offer. They have designed it so there is no way to counter offer except through a lawyer so they hope you go away. Don’t. They won’t go to court. The courts have not been siding with them. So they’ll settle with you. It’s all a game and it’s just a process they designed. Play it. And it is soooo easy.
@kd Ottawa 50% gutted. There were only about 450 at Riverside, now 196 fewer remaining.
Ottawa lab in Canada, Cognos Analytics, Band8.
Received the notice on November 4, 2025.
My last day: December 4, 2025.
Learned that 196 people were let go at the Ottawa lab and 222 people at the Toronto Lab in Canada.
@ja hey Ja - I'm guessing you're referring to Samfiru Tumarkin in Toronto, and based on what I've seen from that firm, that's whom I will be contacting when my layoff comes. Do you happen to know what their percent fee would be to take on an IBM severance pay case on contingency? I believe it's in the neighborhood of 30% but have not been able to have that confirmed. I also don't know if they charge that on the full severance amount, or just what they negotiate beyond what IBM has offered. Any info you can provide as much appreciated.
Any good lawyer tip in Austin, planning to sue IBM for discrimination and racism,
The manager is definitely a useless racist.
@fa call Stan at ST Lawyers.
They know how to take on IBM. Worth it.
Don’t sign. I repeat. Don’t sign.
41 1/2 years same deal as others. US Infrastructure division
"Amid A.I. Bo-m" = let's celebrate buzzwords and bubbles and pretend job losses are actually innovation in disguise.
https://techrights.org/n/2025/11/05/Not_Only_Mass_Layoffs_at_IBM_But_Complete_Shutdowns_Amid_A_I_Bo.shtml
Anyone in Canada should be searching for good employment lawyers. A quick search for lawyers with IBM Canada experience will bring you to Gregory Milwid v IBM Canada who so far got the largest settlement in history for a non-manager (Band 10) he got 27 months severance + kept his unvested RSU's (444 of them).
@fa Band 10 useless. Really. You should have left years ago.
Band 10 useless. Really. You should have left years ago.
IBM Canada. Software. Just celebrated my 28th anniversary yesterday. Band 10. Notified today and Dec 4 separation date.
Yes
They've become a SC-MBAG outfit
Just got whacked after 41 years !
@f0 check with the employment lawyer .ca site. It has a calculator on it for Canadian provinces regarding severance.
20K views, lol, i wander how the communications team will handle this volume
@a2 Canada, band 7, got 1 month and 3 month severance
Accounting and Finance got hit in US
Canada, Band >8, 1 month notice + severance
20 some years and all I get is a 3 minute phone call :-)
@ek If you can share, does Canada also get similar 30 days + severance (ie. is your last day also Dec 4th like the U.S.)?
Band 7 US Z software
Told today
Last day Dec 4th
@dy Part of CE Canada. Was laid off 2 hours ago
@ee Yes, I'm in ZSW and was just laid off
@OP don't worry, IBM will insist on taking out the taxes and miscellaneous expenses from that 3 month severance check you get. What do you expect from thieves and looters?
@ec i just had an hour ago, its about 1 month work from today n 3 months in lumpsum at base pay
Any first or second line managers get the call to join the unemployment lines ?
Anyone impact from z software?@OP
@ec I think that's really up to what your manager is like and how punctual they usually are with scheduling meetings
Has everyone already had 1:1s scheduled or do we expect more invites are still going out?
Got my meeting, was let go as well haha
Band 8, US software.
Last day Dec 4, 3mo severance. 10 years with IBM, band 9.
Anybody in consulting canada affected?
@a2 Only us and Canada ?
CE Canada affected at all band lvls.
Just got my conversation. Laid off from IBM
Just go my conversation. Laid off
@e3 I haven't read the paper work yet.
Pretty sure staying the 30 days is required to get the severance package.
Why would you leave before 30 days? You literally get 4-months of pay by letting the RA get fulfilled.
You should start job hunting TODAY, but don't leave your IBM position.
That is a disservice to you. Let IBM do the hard work of RA'ing you. Don't make it easy for them.
@e2 Do you have to stay the 30 days or can you just take the 3 months severance and start a full-time job search now?