Thread regarding Cigna layoffs

Accelerate to One

Anyone read this conversation with Paul Sanford on Iris? It’s like it was written by a corporate BS generator. It’s a really long winded way of telling us that there is going to be more layoffs and offshoring.


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@fh elt don’t know what is going on because the toxic managers feed them what they want to hear. The biggest drain on resources are bad managers. It’s amazing how many have failed upwards with their only talent being an impeccably skilled at word vomit

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Post ID: @kb+1m4vhwe9b

@jj yep! Then you have the vibe coders who have no idea what they built and the people who understand how to fix it are gone

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Post ID: @ka+1m4vhwe9b

@jj To put it simply all American works should simply NOT train AI to do their jobs. Not just for purposes of saving your job but all future American humans jobs as well.

If you need to tell a fib to your leader that you are doing so but simply not do it or do it poorly, while you look for another job, then so be it.

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Post ID: @k5+1m4vhwe9b

@hm

And who do you think will bear the brunt of those costs; the elites or ham-and-eggers like us?

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Post ID: @k3+1m4vhwe9b

@hm Right! Years ago, companies encouraged knowledge sharing among employees to avoid depending on a single person for critical expertise. Today, we seem to be moving in the opposite direction: everyone and everything is increasingly dependent on AI, potentially turning it into a single point of failure for all knowledge.

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Post ID: @jj+1m4vhwe9b

@fg this administration is part of the reason we are seeing this "accelerated" push for AI and offshoring. The administration is very pro-corporate bottom line BS and anti-regulation. For example, see the email from Mark Hanson about Trump's "Super Intelligence" executive orders that discourage AI regulation. (Pay special attention to the last sentence of the "What Happened" section and the last sentence of the first paragraph under "Implications for the Cigna Group"). They've also made so many cuts to government agencies that would normally be the ones to enforce regulatory action. Corporations know regulations don't matter if there is no one to enforce them. And they know their cronies are definitely not going to be the ones to enforce them.

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Post ID: @jh+1m4vhwe9b

@fh don’t be fooled. AI is going to COST way more than anyone thinks.

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Post ID: @hm+1m4vhwe9b

One thing about Paul. He luvs the sound of his own voice.

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Post ID: @h6+1m4vhwe9b

For an insurance company Cigna ia in the risks business, but all of this offshoring and dependence on AI carries huge risk, The over expansion under Cordani carried huge risk as well. Sure it paid off for a while but it was unsustainable with the changes in the marketplace, and the government regulations that we all know will happen and can't always be predicited accurately. So now there is contraction. But this level of contraction depends on outsourcing IT along with many other functions. I can tell you many stories of companies that have outsouced IT to India, the Philipines, and other cheap labor areas and had initial huge cost savings, only to see IT product quality dwindle and have it impact thier market facing systems. It ends up costing them way more in the long run. AI will cost as well, The development of these systems will have initial and ongoing cost, and when AI sc--ws up, the potential legal implications could be huge.

Big risks once again. I doubt this ELT really understands what they are risking. I would gve this Accelerate to One $30 billion savings about a 60 to 70 percent chance of the initial cost savings actully coming to fruition, but by 2033, the ongoing costs and loss marketshare in the core markets will surpass any savings they said they were going to have. In ten years I hope i am wrong, but Cigna will be brought out or gone IMHO.

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Post ID: @fh+1m4vhwe9b

@fb If this administration wants our votes, then they have between now and November 6th to do something substantial in stopping these 5 major health insurance corporations (e.g., Cigna, Humana, Centene, Elevance/Anthem, United) from removing all our jobs to H-1B, offshoring, and now AI. They need to out their money where their mouth is and show us they mean business or we don’t vote how they want and they lose control of House and Senate.

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Post ID: @fg+1m4vhwe9b

@OP

Accelerate to One as a multiyear modernization and productivity program targeting $3 billion in cumulative cost savings by 2030.

By my math, that’s about 6K US-based jobs over the next 4 years.

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Post ID: @fb+1m4vhwe9b

@f5 Will the last person leaving the Wilde Bldg. please turn off the lights?

Thank you for your attention in this matter.

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Post ID: @fa+1m4vhwe9b

The next corporate initiative slogan will be:

The Singularity

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Post ID: @f8+1m4vhwe9b

Accelerate to one... is that ONE US based employee?

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Post ID: @f5+1m4vhwe9b

@ee yes, our stateside team have been wondering the same thing. I haven’t seen them do much except mess up projects that stateside has to fix

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Post ID: @ew+1m4vhwe9b

@a1 LOL

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Post ID: @ef+1m4vhwe9b

Leveraging global capabilities is equivalent of leaving the Cigna and all its member's faith in the hands of most unreliable, untrustworthy, incompetent people in the world. Can someone tell us what has been the top 3 accomplishments and innovations from Hyderabad since 2024? Are there double standards when it comes to year end performance review and accountability measures?

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Post ID: @ee+1m4vhwe9b

It's not offshoring, it's "leveraging global capabilities."

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Post ID: @dz+1m4vhwe9b

@db

They’re real and they’re spectacular!

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Post ID: @dc+1m4vhwe9b

Are the Challenge Coins a real thing??? I thought it was some kind of Office Space-type joke.

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@a3

Would be an heirloom.

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Post ID: @a9+1m4vhwe9b

@a3 I just sp-t Kool-Aid out all
over my desk. Thanks for the laugh!

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Post ID: @a6+1m4vhwe9b

@a1 My only life goal now is to get one of those Challenge Coins.

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Post ID: @a3+1m4vhwe9b

Brians Beat is the only thing that gets me through the week.

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