If yes, did you find another job and quit?
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@gy Oh, and please don't pretend that you're an AT&T badged coder... We know. You maybe work in software support or something. Maybe throw up a couple .ps1 files here and there. Let me guess, you got Thonny on your laptop and you automate your p0rn scroll. If you weren't already a huge loset this would be fun, but you make it too easy. Go back to your pretend world of coding.
If you knew anything about development, i mean like if you've ever actually developed a real product, you'd understand. The 20 hour days. Sleeping under your desk. Code Red and vape. You know nothing. You are a walking lie. The glory of development is pushing through those 80 hour weeks, pissng off your project managers and sc--wing up the hours per point line charts. You know nothing except how to complain. You are why we fail. Young and stupid is still stupid.
@gd
And being willing to work means being in the office 5 days a week to hang out by the water cooler with the boomers, right?
Not contributing thousands lines of code that actually run the infrastructure that configures the fiber & cell infrastructure while wfh - right?
Boomer mind cannot comprehend.
@bf You are obviously not a person of color, a person with a family and responsibilities, or a person with a strong connection to a community. Arrogant children believe that jobs will just come in if they hold their hands out. I don't hire arrogant children. I hire people who are willing to work. Your comments about "Boomers" could easily be replaced with any other agist, s-xist, or racist slur.
Yes, that makes you a bad person.
Stop talking about what you let Stankey do to your wife, it’s gross man.
This guy gets it.
It’s 2026 - corporations entire function is to sc--w you and make as much money as possible.
If they want to sc--w me im going to sc--w them the best I can.
Idgaf if you’re a $140 bln corporation, I’ll still tell you to go fu-k yourself.
@dp No, it’s called garbage in, garbage out. Morals don’t pay the bills. If someone treats me with integrity and respect, they get it back. If they pull the sh-t our so-called leaders have pulled, sc--w them, it’s open season.
It seems a lot of people at T have a dangerously low risk tolerance lol.
When they told me to relocate I got FOW - so I still didn’t go into the office.
Didn’t actually move, then got given virtual.
It all worked out. I got over a year with bonuses, connections awards, stock match etc, and then virtual.
If I had played it differently none of that would have happened.
You just have to have agency and some ba--s.
The way an employee leaves says much more about that person than any corporate policy. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.the first time.
Yes god forbid people still up for themselves.
This is what I mean, look at some of the replies.
The boomer mind cannot comprehend people standing up for themselves.
@ct Anyone else remember when AT&T was running commercials with Tom Selleck in the early 90s about how you'll be able to work from anywhere, even the beach?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm9jr0cSqZo&pp=ygUQQXQmdCB0b20gc2VsbGVjaw%3D%3D
“The policy drives the reaction.”
Character and morals drive the reaction.
@cy The policy drives the reaction. Corporations have made it more than clear that employees are a hindrance to be eliminated wherever possible rather than an asset. You need to do what’s in your best interest as long as it isn’t illegal.
It’s not good, it’s not necessarily right but that’s where we are right now. There is zero need to force people to uproot their lives to sit at a desk on conference calls.
If Stankey and friends could replace every single one of us with a bot and preserve their comp, they would do so in a minute.
Look at how policies and rules in former Communist countries drove behaviors and maybe you’ll understand or maybe you won’t.
@cw The math is different for everyone. Some people have a much smaller severance entitlement.
The way an employee leaves says much more about that person than any corporate policy. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.the first time.
I know a couple people that did this. Both got let go with no severance. Both regretted it. Better to take the severance and check out. What would you rather do: say no, get 6 months severance, plus whatever time they give you till last day or say yes, have to come into the office 5 days a week for the next 4-6 months and then get nothing, not eligible for unemployment because you would be quitting? I’d say no, take the little time they give, take the money, go home, look for a job and collect unemployment. You’re done either way, but I’d much rather be at home than sitting in this place.
@ck Plenty of dudes living under bridges still have their integrity. Integrity is a two-way transaction. The company is not operating in good faith. You owe them nothing. Acting in the fashion that best protects your family's future is a better definition of integrity. If asked to move, the company is getting rid of you (likely for discriminatory reasons), do whatever maximizes the payments you receive on the way out the door.
@ck Maybe they should realize the problem is this whole “strategy” is id--tic instead of saying people are lying. The fact that a fu--ing telecom company deems it necessary for people to move all over the country for work when the entire stated purpose of the company is to connect people from anywhere is beyond insane. But anybody with an IQ over 40 already knows that which shows the level of intelligence of our so-called leaders.
Widespread lying about plans to relocate has caused HR to shorten the time period given for employee moves. Taking severance is the better option and allows a manager to go out with integrity. This is the only way.
@be if the severance is less than the pay you would receive by leaving, this is exactly what you do. And if it’s getting close to the move date you resign with notice and say my family circumstances changed and I couldn’t do the move.
If I only had say 8 weeks of severance and the other option is working for 4 months and either finding another job or leaving on my own terms then I would do the latter as long as I had a cushion to cover the lack of unemployment payments.
@be This is the way, kids. Worst case you get paid for more than what your severance would have been anyway. Best case you get virtual.
Low quality post. You are likely an under performer who ought to be let go regardless.
The lesson here is, if you know you’re valuable and you have “fu-k you” money saved where losing the job won’t really negatively impact you - then you can just do things.
There’s exceptions for everything in life, the whole motivation behind RTO and forced relocations was attrition. You can just ignore things, especially if you know your value.
The boomer mind cannot comprehend this.
Yes, I accepted the relocation and bought myself another 6-8 months I don’t recall what exactly, I never made any effort to move.
When the date approached I planned to simply resign, I didn’t care about the severance - instead my vp pushed to get me virtual.
Been remote since.
Nope. No ones done that
Yes, I did. I used the time to find another job within T. I have done this twice.
You can quit your job at any time, bro.
Yes. And they were appropriately terminated with loss of severance as a result.