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(Barrons) SAP Stock Jumps After Earnings. How the Software Giant Became an AI Winner.

Summary

  • SAP topped 10 billion euros in quarterly revenue for the first time, and its American depositary receipts jumped 4% in morning trading.

  • The company’s cloud revenue rose 25% to 6.7 billion euros, driven by its business artificial-intelligence, data and platform business.

  • SAP CEO Christian Klein said customers realized that while large language models are well trained, they lack knowledge about business data.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/sap-stock-software-ai-06a9a19

The software apocalypse never came, and the sector is enjoying a stellar recovery. But the challenge for investors has shifted to another conundrum.

“There’s still the question of who will be a winner and who will be more in the loser box,” SAP CEO Christian Klein told Barron’s on Thursday after the company’s third-quarter earnings.

It’s easier to say that when your company is increasingly showing signs it belongs in the winners category. The German software giant, Europe’s sixth most valuable company, topped 10 billion euros ($11.2 billion) in quarterly revenue for the first time.

Its business AI platform, which uses AI assistants and agents to help companies and organizations manage operations and workflows, is starting to pay off. Cloud revenue jumped 25% to €6.7 billion, driven by its business AI, data and platform business. Its current cloud backlog is up 26% to €24.1 billion.

Software stocks indiscriminately tumbled earlier this year as investors feared that rapid developments in artificial intelligence would disrupt the sector.

SAP was very much caught up in it. The ADRs fell around 40% from the start of the year to its 52-week low on July 23. But the stock has climbed more than 60% in the three months since, beating the iShares Expanded Tech-Software Sector ETF’s rise over the same period.

The sector’s slump led to some soul-searching at SAP. “It doesn’t feel nice. Everyone doesn’t feel so well if the stock is not performing. But especially in those days it was super important to focus on the product and the customers and say ‘is the strategy we have the right one?’,” Klein said.

A number of lessons were learned very quickly, aided by customer feedback.

“A lot of customers realized: Hey, I can develop an agent super quickly and deploy it the next day. But what about the accuracy?” Klein said. “All the LLMs [large language models] are well trained, but they have no clue about [your] business data, about how to run a business.”

That was the first lesson, leading to a realization that SAP needed to build a business AI platform. Then as they experimented it became clear that AI agents had plenty to learn—from tax calculations specific to the U.K. or Germany, data privacy, the inner workings of HR, finance, supply chain, and much more. And crucially, to build trust among the businesses using the AI platform.

Existing customers got their hands on the latest tools in the third quarter but SAP also revealed a list of new clients across sectors, including Spain’s Banco Bilbao, German semiconductor manufacturer Infineon, and South America’s largest railway manufacturer Greenbrier Maxion. The U.S. Defense Logistics Agency is another notable addition. “The [U.S.] government really like what they see,” Klein said. “And we are winning customers in the public sector, so it’s a win-win.” The company also said it’s working with AstraZeneca to develop AI solutions in the life sciences industry.

From a broader perspective, it suggests more and more companies are embracing AI and exploring the potential benefits and efficiencies it can bring.

Shiny, new consumer-facing AI tools like Meta’s Muse may be grabbing the spotlight. But as the world rapidly changes and businesses ramp up their appetite for AI, SAP is looking like a winner.


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I am a winner. Can I work at SAP?

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Post ID: @nm+1m5jbkjap

@hg every role is under review

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Post ID: @jz+1m5jbkjap

Chuck is always winning, even if he does nothing at all.

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Post ID: @hy+1m5jbkjap

@hg In the last major reorg they laid of entire labs that were working on AI even though they said they were reorging to enable AI. Is was bull then and its even more bull now, they were laid off for cost cutting and any layoffs coming will be for cost cutting. Even if we do interface via agents, the actual deterministic backend operations will still need to be developed and maintained and not by magic agents that work only a small amount of the time.

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Post ID: @hs+1m5jbkjap

@dr Yeah there was an all hands call the other day. The last question was really unsettling, implying that there's no guarantee that there won't be any layoffs in the next 12 months. My department is currently under review for its utility despite us working extensively on AI. And several colleagues have declared they are "looking" for external opportunities. But kudos to the guy for actually standing up and saying that it shouldn't be too hard to simply swap teams.

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Post ID: @hg+1m5jbkjap

SAP is winning because Chuck works there.

And they have a really great board. And lots of Indians.

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Post ID: @h3+1m5jbkjap

I came here specifically because a coworker attended an all hands yesterday and is concerned with layoffs. Kudos for helping the company who is about to turn your lives upside-down raise their stock price.

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Post ID: @dr+1m5jbkjap

SAP is winning because it is the greatest company in the world.

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Post ID: @de+1m5jbkjap

SAP is winning because in a lake of liquid effulence the floaters rise to the top, but its still a lake of sh1t. Or AI is rubbish and only works well in canned demos and then falls over the moment someone doesnt use the correct magic incantation or the model providers tweak things slightly.

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Post ID: @cj+1m5jbkjap

Of course SAP is winning.

The board is great. Chuck works here. And SAP has hired a lot of Indians.

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Post ID: @by+1m5jbkjap

If SAP share price is up and revenue is up, does SAP still need layoffs? When will the executive hatred towards employees end?

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Post ID: @bp+1m5jbkjap

The claim holds true for SAP’s own AI, which has difficulty interpreting its internal data. Although internal assessments may suggest superior performance, the evidence is unlikely to persuade adoption outside a test setting. We should acknowledge that enterprise data is highly disorganized, and several years may be required to correct it before meaningful results emerge.

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