Thread regarding Phillips 66 layoffs

Force low ratings is a terrible idea - senior management must fix

For a company full of people climbing over themselves to push AI ideas - I have a challenge for you. Ask AI what the actual impact of forced low ratings in a major company. Not to steal the thunder here but - it’s a total failure - across the board!

It brings -

Terrible supervisor behavior
Crushes morale
Encourages disposable practices
Invites lawsuits
Extreme cost from turnover
Moreover - these impacts are worse at a company like P66 because of the annual cycles of cuts, the layoffs, outsourcing, and automation.

What’s so bad about it? Consider this situation:

You are in a group of 60 people, no supervisor has more than 6 people, some have only 3. Because of the continuous cutting of the “worst” since 2012 and the outsourcing or automation of many entry level jobs - your group is comprised of seasoned professionals. You supervise 4 people, all improve their work processes, find opportunities and add value. Through the year you stretch your people and have challenging targets. Almost all are hit. And - this is a big one - you have no reason for substantive performance conversations through the year.

At year end, as you “calibrate” you are asked for your bottom performer. You choose the person who missed 1 of his stretch goals - knowing that this person had a great year, they just happened to be at the bottom of your group. You know they don’t deserve a “3”.

Through calibration, your group of 60 must have three people to hang “3”’s on. Last year, you had 2 people in the larger group who were very deserving of “3l ratings and one more that made sense - they all left the company. Now, as calibration moves on, you realize that your employee is in the running for bottom 5 of the group.

Let’s pause here - because this whole process is built on the idea that each supervisor is as good, as active, as honest as the next. Surely each supervisor is as diligent in giving stretch goals to their employees - right? Surely none of them have employees who do the minimum but don’t mess up - thereby flying under the radar?

Back to calibration. At the end of the session, all of your peers and your people leader agree that your person is the third “3”. Now, after a successful year, you get to tell them they underperformed and are going to have negative impacts to their compensation as well as be put on a performance improvement plan.

This, in various forms, is what forced ratings look like. In every instance you must assume that people who did not earn a 3 will get them. And when that message is given - what will the supervisor say?

An honest comment would be “I believe you did a great job, however, in calibration the group determined you to be in the bottom 5%.” And what would you tell him to work on, exactly?

HR will say you need to “own the rating” and you cannot say they don’t deserve it - but pull all that apart for a moment. Your true feelings, the ones you expressed at calibration, is that this employee does not deserve a 3.

This process cannot exist at a company that claims to care about employees.

Impact

The forced 3 should motivate this employee to look for a job. There is a high probability the supervisor may also be more open to leaving - having seen the true character of our policy. If they leave, how do you know we get someone better, and, when? Many studies show that turnover costs as much as 1 year compensation! Seems pretty short sighted.

Add to this that we don’t have good pipelines for development unless you are hiring from CapGemni!

Legal risk

Why is there legal risk? Because we are rating people low not because of their actions. In many cases, there will have been no negative feedback in the year from the supervisor. When this occurs, especially against a protected class - bad things happen. Use AI to see how many companies have been sued for this practice and how many have stopped because of litigation threat - it’s a lot.

This is a terrible idea - a horrible idea - and it impacts all but the highest level employees.

My hope is that a rigid core of supervisors will ask themselves honestly if each person who is hung with a 3 deserves it. If they do, they should have been given ample notice through meaningful conversations which are documented. If, however, you are a supervisor who is tasked with hanging a 3 on an employee you know does not deserve it - my hope is you say NO, and you inform management you would rather have it assigned to yourself as neither of you have earned it


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Post ID: @OP+1m2v19m53

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I happen to know for fact that the ELT gave more 3s to the Leaders Group then they were required to last year. Some were let go but others are still there.

In the end, the ELT assesses people on compliance and visible support of the ELT. There are so many low performers in the Leaders Group but they look past it because those people are lemmings that tell the ELT what they want to hear in order to preserve their outsized pay.

The same is then applied downward: promote the people that protect your position.

HR has we-ponized the process to purge those that have opinions differ from the ELT. It is dangerous and will result in poor decisions and worse.

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Post ID: @ny+1m2v19m53

@hj think of it as the 3-, 4, 5 ratings never went away. Same vcip adjustment percentages as those.

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Post ID: @nh+1m2v19m53

@k9 This is not an argument for forced 3’s. Bad performers are an argument for assigning “3’s”. Of course it is a tool to light a fire under a bad performer. If half of your group is in that boat, assign 50% of your group “3’s”. They are always a tool - it is the “forced” part that’s the problem.

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Post ID: @mg+1m2v19m53

@hk
I agree with a lot of what you and OP said, but the poor performers most definitely are NOT all gone.

Considering how well-paid a lot of us are, we should be getting a lot more out of a lot of folks, and I genuinely believe the forced 3 could light a fire under some of them.

Recent tough times have forced out as many of the better employees as it has the worst (at least in some areas).

And the personnel we replaced them with are largely a downgrade, so there's still plenty of room for improvement.

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Post ID: @k9+1m2v19m53

@OP This has been a big topic of conversations, especially this year. It seems many people know employees who have gotten the forced 3, or, supervisors who have witnesses the process. I have talked to many people about this, and I cannot find 1 person who is not senior, senior management that will not privately say this is the worst decision ever. With no support in staff or mid-level leadership - how can this continue? At the very top - (ELT, ELT+1, ELT+2) I wonder if 5% of those positions get a 3? Of course not! Those never do, and, I bet if you look at all people leaders and put them in a bucket, there is no way 5% (or even close) get a 3 rating. This is because they make the decisions. When they look around the room and have to give a 3 to a person who does not deserve it - they are not going to give it to the person sitting across from them! That means that if you remove supervisors - much more of the staff get the rating than 5%!

I don't know how a company can do this and say they care about fairness or employees. If as the OP said this practice has been debunked as useful - or, if there is any controversy about that, P66 should never do it. How can they?

I agree that we can't lose more people. The "poor performers" are gone. Just a few more key people leaving and we are in a real mess. We don't have the experience and the bodies to keep plugging the holes created by all of the cuts, poor initiatives, and outsourcing.

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Post ID: @hk+1m2v19m53

@h9 Interesting! So the implications are, what? If you get a "3", the actual impact is VARIABLE? We can assume a person "who really does not deserve a 3" (read - forced rating) gets a 10% reduction. A Person who REALLY deserves a "3" gets a 100% reduction? This is even more reason why this is a terrible idea and seems like lawsuit material!

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Post ID: @hj+1m2v19m53

@e9 there are three options on a 3: -10%, -50%, -100%. Gets chosen at calibration

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Post ID: @h9+1m2v19m53

OP text either used internal AI as it talks about our rating scale. It also talks about the number of employees in their area and how many work for them. It talks about capgem. If the used their own device and their own AI channels, then this poster has an odd relationship with their bot and should quit or consider therapy.

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Post ID: @fa+1m2v19m53

@e9 if I remember correctly from when the policy rolled out the person receiving a 3 could see upto -50% VCIP.

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Post ID: @en+1m2v19m53

@OP Does anyone know the impact to VCIP, raise, or stock for a person who gets a 3 (deserved or not)?

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Post ID: @e9+1m2v19m53

@d9 what is not anonymous? Are you suggesting that if a p66 employee searches to ask the impact of forced low ratings on company performance that they will be punished?

Management is allowed to make mistakes. Employees are allowed to assess management decisions and agree or disagree. I think the poster is suggesting that the idea of forced low ratings is an issue that the consensus of the US has shown doesn’t work.

People have AI on every device now…not sure what you are getting at.

My hope is a simple search by anyone to validate whether or not a management idea is valid would not cause persecution. If so…there are much bigger problems afoot!

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Post ID: @e8+1m2v19m53

I imagine you know this, but it is no longer anonymous if they are find out from your AI results.

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Post ID: @d9+1m2v19m53

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