Are managers typically informed ahead of time if someone on their team is being let go, or do they find out when the employee does?
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Last year when this happened, my SVP didnt discuss with anyone and designed the most backwards, ineffective organization structure one could ever imagine. Clearly, if you don't know how the business runs, you should not be designing orgs... I'm sure this iteration will clean up last years mistakes... Horrible what they put people through...
I was a manager at a point in my career here, my entire dept was gutted without my knowledge. I found out when the VP showed up.
I’m an executive director and I don’t know anything yet. My boss also claims not to know anything. For what it’s worth.
So managers don't give names (or list) to their leadership team to remove them.
In case managers dont give the names to remove - on what basis the names will be IDd. Based on salary/Exp/Role/h1 etc?
@OP I've experienced multiple situations at Comcast Business. Nov 2023 only the VPs knew. We had employees let go by HR and their immediate management wasn't made aware until afterwards. Oct/Nov 2024 was planned with all levels of Leadership for weeks in advance. Directors/Managers were told to stack rank their teams and were then given a number to reduce by. Its anyone's guess what will happen this year. My VP has been completely quiet on the topic thus far.
@bs in my org, it’s the managers, directors, specialists, and contractors who do the actual work. VPs get nothing done but presenting some slide decks (most of the times not ones they create). The real work and strategy is done by people levels below, while the VPs add redirects and pointless detours that waste time and produce nothing. Fewer sign-offs and fewer side quests would do more for results than getting rid of the worker bees.
I was a manager in the divisions last year. Got a sudden meeting put on my calendar Tuesday around lunch. The following morning I had to tell my whole team one by one.
@OP in my experience going back the last 20 years, for divisional and HQ, director/manager would find out within 24hr of the people under them.
@a4 uff, sorry to hear, was up it during this round
@OP I’m a manager and don’t know. None of the managers on my team know. None of the other managers I’ve talked to across several functions know. And the worthless poster who said managers are just taking up space obviously knows nothing. Take your cr-p elsewhere, buddy.
Taking my manager at his word, he was not informed of layoffs until after they happened in years passed. Call me gullible but I believe him.
@OP my manager found out a day before before I was notified.
Most of the managers are just taking up space
@OP My manager found out 15 minutes before I did. We were both laid off.