Hi all
I don't work in IBM but an ex IBM guy is taking over where I work and RTO has been announced
Just wondering is it enforced at IBM ? Is there a min number of hours on site or can you just leave whenever
Thanks
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@pj they mean complete return to office no more WFH at all
@b9 What do you mean by “full RTO”?
If this is Ayman, he was with IBM for 32 years. During that time, people were in the office and expected to be in-person at meetings. People even drove between buildings to ensure they were in the room because if you joined remotely, you were forgotten. People who wanted to move-up knew they needed to be in the office everyday to have scheduled and informal interactions with the leaders.
Fu-k no! I commute on IBM’s dime.
You have to be smart about it.
@bn
How is Albany these days? I keep hearing crazy and not so good (frankly terrible) things?
@bg+ I think you are supposed to commute in your own time
@bn
lol just good educated guess
@bj how did you know ? lucky guess ?
@bh are you from Albany?
@bg working at IBM is not about being productive. It is about lying, cheating and making noise, about being dishonest to your advantage.
I lose an hour or two of productivity 3 times a week to meet the RTO requirement. It takes me at least an hour and a half for my office round trip which I do between 10 and noon. I have my calendar blocked just for that every day.
I noticed all the managers were saying the same thing like they got a script. Dozens of managers saying something to the effect of “ I believe we are more productive when we work face to face in the same room, yadda yadda” All of them were saying something like this. Now we and even they know it’s horsesh-t. Everyone knows you are minimum 2x more productive WFH. I won’t debate the merits of it. But in IBMs case it was done as a measure of control for a variety of different reasons but none truly about productivity and performance. And of course we all know full RTO is on the horizon this coming spring.
@b3 thanks for the info
Yes, RTO is enforced, but only looking at badge-ins. There are no badge-outs at most if not all IBM offices. So, I just go badge in 3 times a week and turn around right away to go home. Most offices don’t have enough space/desks anyway, so unless you get in really early you will very likely not get a desk. This is pathetic at best.
Some people have said IBM tracks your IP, work you do, etc… all BS, none if that is happening. Come in, badge in and go home.
Sounds like OpenText Ayman Antoun. He has been out of the game for 3 years or so and in tech you get stale in about 6 mos. His skills will be musty and why did he check out and come back? He will not be committed. In any event IBM is a mess and the remaining managers are simply survivors who will do and say anything to survive another week. Weak. Ineffective and worst of all WOKE like you have never seen. Long answer to your question is IBM is so big and scattered that RTO talks a big game but depends on your role and location. Sales; do what you want and hit a number. Development much easier to track and demand RO 5 days a week. IBM mgrs are robotic in laying people off although IBM never calls it that. Not down size nor RIF reduction in force. For 4 decades it has been RA resource action. And for the last 3 years or so IBM has gone all in on PIPs performance improvement plans which is code for you are targeted to be pushed out and given an amateur list of things to do to get off the naughty list. Most of the people I have seen go on PIPs just extend as long as possible and look for a new job then disappear like they never existed.