Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

@fe stop expecting disabled people to just disappear so that you don’t have to accommodate them.

Yes you can get an accommodation for an office or remote depending on if it causes anxiety and has to be medically documented. Being open to more than one solution will make it easier for them to accommodate. Go to your doctor first with the forms and then contact our leaves specialists, it can take time for them to review and if you haven't already been accommodated to be remote it will be up to the LOB to decide if it's an undue hardship.

@km You mean the adult women with professional careers? I would hope that there are not girls/children patrolling the floors.

@cb They aren't. Chandler 2600 building floor 2 is a disgrace for this. They make friends with the girls in the special shirts who "patrol" the floors all day. If you're not friends with them, you have no shot.

@OP yes I went through the process for neurodivergence and was given accommodations for the open cube seating arrangement.

@ac This was a very specific accusation to make. Is there a story behind this?

@f4 Which is why you should find a gig that explicitly says remote. Stop expecting the masses to cave for a few

@f4 not about an inability

@ac explain what you mean by this. “Not responding to bullying over the years.” What does this mean?

@b3 Here’s the thing: your kind of attitude is called ableism, and it is intellectually lazy. Disabilities are not “little things” and neurodivergence is about an inability to be around other people.

@be neurodiversity isn’t one size fits all for solutions though.

@eh this misses the point completely. While it may make things more difficult for ANYONE, it is DISABLING rather than simply difficult for people who have significant neuro-cognitive differences. An open office plan can create distractions and overstimulation for anyone, but it can almost limit a person’s access to employment and career advancement when they have neuro-cognitive differences.

Saying that it is difficult for anyone in this instance is like hearing someone with mobility differences raise concerns that they have to climb stairs to get to work, take lunch breaks, etc. and responding to it by saying that stairs make it more difficult for ANYONE to get to work. Of course anyone could feel that the stairs make it more difficult to get to work, but it can limit access to employment and career advancement to people with mobility differences because it creates a disabling barrier.

The open seating style we are moving to is difficult for ANYONE to work in. But as a couple others it is being done not for your benefit but nefarious reasons. Drive attrition, make you unhappy force a culture of toxicity but having no privacy.

To answer some of the nonsense

I’m stateside, in West Des Moines

I’m autistic, not some made up diagnosis
When I was a manage I had a quiet cube with high walls, as did my neighbors. I had lights taken out to reduce sensitivity issues

My last assigned seat also had high walls

The area I sit now is one of the last areas with the old cubicles - that will change as renovations expand

I grab the old manager cubes when available as they have high walls

The regular cubes are nearly intolerable for me to work in. The noise, movement, smells, lights and constant aisle conversations are quite difficult for me to handle

The new open seating is significantly worse, particular the bench seating

I’m concerned about my mental health and productivity - not an excuse not to work

It’s incredibly ableist to autistic and adhd people to have open floor plans and quiet rooms that have squatters or are inconsistently available

@ah how are the focus rooms being monitored? We have squatters coming from different offices that take them up all day ...

@a9

The open office seating serves several other functions. It also is meant to expose people and pressure them to be working rather than picking up their phones and playing on them.

The lack of assigned seating is for you to realize you are just an impersonal cog in the machine. There is no place you can call your own and bring personal effects.

With the reduced workforce these two functions are to help drive competition to give the appearance of working harder than those around you so you aren’t the next cog removed. They need you to work harder and see those around you as competition not just coworkers.

@OP aspie here. You will get used to it as I did. I also had to put up with longer commute and constant traffic jams. It was overwhelming at first but now it has become a routine. Neurodivergent brains can adapt; it might take a little longer but it eventually will. Ask your manager if you can start your workday early so you can have more quiet and productive hours in the morning. Good luck.

have you considered bringing a large box and creating a barrier like with covid

@ag it's funny how nobody had issues until RTO and neighborhood seating. Now everyone needs pure silence, darkness and no people. I guess all those people tunnel up from underneath buildings by themselves and take a private elevator to their dark office? They also don't have a home with any windows and never leave the house

Here’s the thing, if you cannot be around people then find a company with a job full remote. Stop expecting the world to cater to your little problem.

@a7 this post was not written by a US employee. “We will stop advising tasks to you”? Nobody “advises tasks” to anyone. Weird post, nice try tho

@OP I was able to work around the oftentimes denied accommodations for Neurodivergency by requesting and getting approved for a migraine accommodation which I legitimately have. I was given an assigned seat away from my coworkers as possible and not around the bright lights. I also was given permission to use the focus rooms more often than others because those are monitored now. Good luck and I hope you can find a working condition that helps rather than adds to the problem.

@a7 you clearly do not accept the differences in people or have a clue about neurodivergence or any other human aspects that fall outside the realm of your idea of “normality”. I believe you to still be a childhood bully sitting amongst us, lacking emotional intelligence, compassion, and tolerance.

The way people are being let go right now, I would be very careful about rocking that boat

neurodivergent as in ptsd and not responding to bullying over years?

"neorudivergent"

Good luck. The new cubicle environment is a big part of the forced attrition strategy to make employees miserable so they quit to avoid severance.

@a7 You are a lawsuit waiting to happen my friend.

Get in early and grab a focus room

If you are under medical care for what you described, send your doctor a message and make an appointment. Metlife will send the paperwork directly to your doctor to fill out. My ADA accommodation got approved about 2 to 3 weeks after my doctor submitted the paperwork. It is for one year at a time for me. Goodluck!

All I know was I requested to be assigned a desk in the open seating space that didn't face the TV, but because I don't have an official diagnosis, the answer was a clean no.

But I bought my own device to block my vision of the TV and no one seems to mind that I put it up when a desk that works for me isn't available.

Other than that, I put on headphones when not on Teams calls and play a loud recording of a thunderstorm on repeat to block the noise.

I've always found it's easier to make my own accommodations rather than try to get diagnosed.