This is a serious question and ONLY directed at H-1b FTEs. I’m a white female from Europe who used to be on H-1b when initially hired by Nike. I’ve been a permanent resident for a while now but still curious about something. I know the scenarios where H-1b hires get paid less or taken advantage of but I have never had that happen to me by Nike or any of my other (much bigger) employers. When Nike hired me, all of my coworkers on the team were American and my salary was comparable to or higher than theirs. Has any H-1b FTE observed they are in fact getting underpaid? Contractors are a different story and can be more easily exploited hence I’m excluding them from the question.
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Hiring H1Bs is rarely if ever about paying less salary for a role. It's about obedience and docility. H1Bs don't have the same rights as citizens and are bound to their employers. Big corps like that. They don't like it when workers have things like laws and rights to protect them, or the ability to quit and get a different job.
With the advent of remote work, even dim-witted corp leadership like Nike's has figured out that they don't need to pay H1Bs American wages, they can stick them in an office warehouse overseas and pay them whatever the prevailing local wage is.
That's not the end game. H1Bs will only be around for a little while longer -- once big tech builds the robot slaves they've always wanted, the humans are gone, regardless of where on the planet they live. Nothing better than a worker that has no rights and can't earn a salary.
@j6 this pov must and should exist. I was personally more on the “I’m a little too good to be relying on a lottery system” but whatever. My national interest waiver proved that
it's a bit of a hope and prayer to think h1b's can hang on and continue to work here for for decades. Every year things get closer to making sense rather than not, how many h1b's are saying to themselves, wow I'm pretty lucky to work and live here and make good money, and not even work that hard. To the point they are probably laughing with the reality of the improbability and saying, wow these people are really d-mb to hire all these h1b's!! It's a privilege and it's running out, imo
We should get paid higher. We left our home to come do the jobs amerikans cant.
@d5 wouldn’t it make sense to prefer American FTEs then? Unless you really think they hire whomever they think would be the best fit for the role regardless of immigration status.
I’ve always seen them paid higher as H-1B salaries are determined by the government based on job role, location, and experience. Americans in your same role don’t get that luxury, which also affects annual raises.
@b5
the irony is the clowns that are doing the outsourcing
probably cannot produce their own product
(and hence aren't very necessary in our soceity)
@c3 I’m not a unicorn but def hot so maybe that’s why I got hired
@ch OP here. Thanks, I’m pretty naive for not having ever browsed this site
@bm You are a rank amateur with your microwave fish.
I’ll see that with some massively over burnt popcorn, and raise it with some sardines or oysters that you “accidentally” dropped behind the refrigerator five days ago.
You still have much learning to do, grasshopper.
https://h1bdata.info/index.php
Day one stuff
You think a culture that spins up 400 “businesses” for each applicant to game the H1b lottery odds would be honest about their race, wage, nationality, or gender on an anonymous forum?
Naive.
White female in tech. “I’m a unicorn anyone else getting tge unicorn treatment?”
I'm the one that likes to microwave a fish in the lunch room for 20 minutes every day
with 100k out of work American's and growing, I think all H1B's should abolished until the market actually needs them
I also think there should be tariffs on outsourcing work overseas, how is that any different than purchasing goods from overseas...tariff it and get America working again!!!
@aa 100%, the etw vendors like wipes, cognizant and insists essentially abuses the h1b model and will find anyway to prevent increases getting to them.
I am H1B holder and have always and still get paid equivalent or higher for my role.
The low wages aren’t coming from individual workers. They come from the ETW model used by large firms. These vendors bill the company at the same hourly rate as a full-time employee, sometimes higher, but pass on only 50% or less to the worker. The rest is retained by the vendor.