Anybody else feels like we have a VP, SD, SVP, etc. per 50 employees?
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There is widespread bloat at every level.
We have too many upper mgmt that dont know how to manage. When i first started i thought the VPs were union because it takes 2 of them to do anything.
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Have no doubt that we have bloated areas. However some jobs don’t fit a SPOC due to training and expertise. What should be the span of control for Corporate, Administrative, Business, Intellectual, Finance, etc, etc, lawyers? Worked in a Network center in another life. Handled the outside technicians. Tip and ring guys. No way I could have been productive in a Specials center. Saw them try and go span of control in some rural areas and most of the time it was a cluster. The 1 or 2 specials guys were on their own. Regular Mgr couldn’t even read their orders and had no clue as to material, time it took for a job, etc. unless they had some background in that work. Again there is probably some bloat, but doubt an Intellectual Property lawyer could handle Financial Law.
@a9 SPOC is supposed to be 14:1 for all of us lower level folks. It is not close to that at the executive levels . . . it is much smaller. The Levels above L3 are significantly bloated.
What are those redundant tasks and how many people are included? This board has become cliche central. Just use Stinky, the Stank, etc and get 50 upvotes. A lawyer in almost any company isn’t going to have 30 other lawyers reporting to them just to have a number that makes us feel comfortable. And how many lawyers should be reporting to each of those 30? Will say that I have seen empire building in places. I wonder if the original poster has a definitive number for span of control and the knowledge to know why.
There are too many people doing redundant tasks that don’t add any value. Finance, Legal and Marketing could be cut by 50%!!
will not happen. executives protect executives. they believe they are all indispensable.
A great amount of the level 3 and higher need to go as they are burning up the cash needed to offset the debt and bring zero value in innovation. Daddy Elon is coming for your a-s
I don’t feel like we do. It’s a fact that’s true