Has it always been this bad? Internal processes that are archaic. No defined method of project management disorganized chaos and slide decks Webex, Slack now Teams just choose one for sake of my sanity!! Jira ticket after jira ticket and throwing over the wall mentality.
I will be glad to leave this dreadful company.
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@15q Reminds me of a few posts in this thread - https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jmvp59r8
@jc A known tactic at Ford is information asymmetry. It is where information is withheld or selectively shared to control perceptions and decision-making. You may notice this with a lack of transparency in pay bands, promotion criteria, or company strategy. Watch out for pseudo-transparency, such as moving the goalpost when you approach policies with your own information. Always ask direct questions, request measurable criteria, and seek external benchmarks (salary data, industry standards).
Well said about Bill Ford. Talk about a useless POS born with the golden spoon in his mouth. I think Farley is there because he does what Ford says.
No investment in their people ... lack of development and opportunityl. Always do more, we don't have budget, sub-par salary increases, filling gaps with long time agency instead of bringing them in and further developing your teams for success. Jumping to the hottest buzz in the business environment and nobody really leading. the list is long ....
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Who on God's green earth is legit trying to solve complex problems here? We are bare-minimally surviving, to accumulate as many paychecks as possible before layoff.
Hard or complex work is as far away as Jupiter.
@ea+1k3hb1brg dude you must not of worked at any decent large corporation. Throw it over the wall is not allowed at well run companies. At a well run company you own the ticket and the drive thru for resolution including documenting resolution and any needed process improvements. Finger pointing, blame shifting are not tolerated.
At Ford the whole game is to chuck the ticket to someone else or to just close it. People get away with closing valid tickets claiming user error caused it / weather caused it. The LL6 backs up the behavior. There was a time when teams cooperated but post Mulally the LL ranks are predominately FnF and frankly they only care about their own careers and pocketbooks not the company.
You are just a number and they will keep doing + and - with those number, never be under impression that they care about or notice what you do there,, just swipe and chill because everyone there is an id--t waiting to get fired tomorrow if not today!!!
Oh no—too many tools and not enough hand-holding? The horror! Welcome to literally every large enterprise navigating digital transformation. If using Slack and Teams is breaking your spirit, corporate life might not be your calling. "Jira tickets" and "slide decks" are hardly unique to Ford—they're standard operating tools, not personal attacks. And that "throw it over the wall" feeling? It’s called cross-functional collaboration in a company with tens of thousands of people. Maybe the chaos isn’t the company—it’s just that you're finally realizing complex problems don’t get solved with one app and a complaint post.
Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result actually works with Windows, and other Microsoft products.
But I digress…
Ford used to be one of the best places to work.
So sad.
I've worked at Ford for just under five years. It's the worst company I ever worked at. What makes it so bad? Way too many managers/LLs, bureaucracy that is insanely deep, and the culture rot that has been created. There is no room for challenging the status quo, independent thinking, or improved/leaner ways to deliver. It's doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result (definition of insanity). I've never seen such backward thinking. I'm job searching, but it's a brutal job market right now. I truly feel stuck right now and it's a terrible feeling.
No. Despite these earthshattering nuggets of wisdom, I refuse. Your opinions are irrelevant.
I'll be here, merrily slowing down workflows, wasting resources, and bringing a spoiled milk attitude to any interaction.
Oh, I'll also keep racking up those checks. Have a nice day!
Here is a novel idea, quit!
There are a lot of jobs on LinkedIn suited for a person like yourself who is tired of the same old, same old. The posted jobs a seek self-motivated individuals who are looking for a challenge, not afraid to break out of the box and willing to create new opportunities for themselves within their organizations.
Oh, wait a minute, this does sound like you!
Never mind!
Who is the bigger loser, the company that supposedly treats you bad or the id--t that keeps going to work there every day?
Don’t spend to much effort thinking about it.
AI is the new emperors clothes and will be accountable for any faults, recalls, etc...
Bad leaders. You can blame the workers all you want. But are they the ones making the calls?
We will also be glad when OP leaves this "dreadful" company. The constant whining is getting old.
Archaic based on old manufacturing with floor supervisors. Still not on par with modern R&D or IT companies.
The employees.
@a8 Being old has nothing to do with age! It's a mindset when it comes to relevancy to the needs of today
@a7 Dude like me didn't need to read documentation that didnt exist. come in swinging cuz im competent. unlike these old cronies saying. we still have yet to learn and we dont have experience
@OP. When there are issues in the production line, the cause is always on the top (managers). In this company, all the issues stem from the Ford family and the stoopid rich boy bleeding heart green planet democrat Bill Ford.
20 years ago, Bill Ford lost his position as CEO for his folly. Instead of "taking the hint" and disappearing from the business, his ego made sure he'll always have a seat at the BoD table and he'll decide who's the CEO. So he is still in charge of the company. He is the one that selected the furniture guy and the snake oil salesman, some yes men to do as Bill pleases. AM and MF were let go earlier because they didn't follow Billy's stoopidity. Not happy with that, Bill's own family were given positions in the company, managing positions to those trust fund babies that don't know anything about the business.
So all those managers below understood the new rules of the game. Don't say the truth to Bill, or risk losing the job. Just be a yes man, and carry on. Soon, the other managers not only copied the stoopidity of Bill, but also his nepotism. So the FnF club grew exponentially in the last 6 years, while the company layoffs took care of the best talent. What do we have now, besides some scared workforce and a clueless management? The logo, that's it. It was pawned 20 years ago, soon it will be pawned again.
BTW, the company has always been "big" in processes and documentation, even when many did not follow those. Now with the outsourcing, more and more pushes for more documentation and processes. Who make these? Clueless managers that cannot be contradicted, credit stealing FnFs that don't understand what they stole, and disgruntled employees. The constant reorgs, layoffs and changes didn't help either. Now it is more important to have a process or doc than a delivery. So a newbie cannot even understand where to start in order to unravel the processes associated to the position.
@a2 someone who did not drink the blue kool-aid from my take.
@a1 Not true, they have their hands in just about everything in Michigan. Too big to fail. Too big to take accountability either, so any mistake you see doesn't really affect them..
Who tf is this. They really hate jira tickets. Been posting this for a year straight it seems. Do you not have a project manager on your team? Regardless, jira tickets don't show real output. What is the new process if this is archaic? Matching performance or quantifying metrics of output through it isn't archaic, it's inaccurate. But why does that mater unless you think someone is going to we-ponize it against you.
Ford won't be around much longer.