Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

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@dm I bet those developers where deloitted to see that contract come to an end.

@dm While I have no idea where this happened, I bet people on those clean up teams hear things like "Don't worry. It'ill still be broken tomorrow."

Just a guess though, since I am definitely not on one of those teams, wherever they are.

@ab I would like to share a story about an unnamed company that wanted to develop a new erp.

And I hope that something like this never happens at Verizon.

In 2021 and 2022 management and developers met regularly to lay out the details on how the new erp would work and what the expectations were.

Management explained that they wanted the erp designed in a specific fashion. Almost every aspect had been touched in some way but it was clear that they didn't quite understand how each piece came together and worked to create the environment that defined what an erp is.

The developers warned against it and explained the expected failures if they were to move forward with their plan. Management overruled them and demanded that the developers move forward with the plan as described.

The employees who would use the erp explained that the developers were right about what would fail and also detailed each of the features that were not included that are almost always a default standard feature in any erp. Management told them that the decision had been made and they were moving forward as planned.

About a week before the expected go live date it was clear that it would not go well so they moved the date out a few months. As the new date approached, the problems still had not been corrected but the executive who was running the project decided it would go live regardless because he had a deadline to meet and their reputation was on the line.

The system had back-to-back failures immediately after the go live date and many more were discovered as the days and weeks and months went on. They are still being discovered today. Most of the failures were exactly what the developers said would happen.

Management explained to everyone that they hired the worst developers to design the erp and it was all their fault even though the developers had designed erp systems for a number of successful corporations and had built a reputation of knowing how to build an erp.

Management explained that they were going to have to assemble teams and divide the work up to try and correct everything that went wrong. Those teams would work in their own silos and would not be allowed to speak to each other. They never realized that one team was undoing the work that another team had just finished and vice versa. As it turned out this had accidentally created a never ending source of work and they were needed more than ever to clean it all up.

As a small round of layoffs and a larger VSP rolled through in 2024, management said not to worry. They were too valuable because they had so many problems, created by the developers, that needed to be cleaned up that everyone should be safe. They assured everyone that there was enough of work to maintain them for the next few years.

Toward the end of 2024 hardly anything had actually been improved or corrected.

The same is true for 2025 and now 2026.

One team fixes something and another team undoes it and vice versa... The never ending source of work that is too important to be abandoned or shut down.

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Real, real stuff, disappear. Not even speared by the red brigade.
They do read this site - every single post.

@af "The VZ wireless network is going to sh!t."

Preach! 🙌

Been with wireless about 8 years and it boggles the mind. Like the other person said, every solution that was checked and proven to work was rejected for ones that were checked and proven would fail. It was literally failure by choice.

And if management is to be believed, failure was expected and approved to the top of (G)N&T.

I mean, what do you even do with that? Make it make sense.

VZ cut 40% of the fulltime, very experienced RF design engineers in the NC/SC/TN (CARTN) market area in the big RIF at the end of 2025. That tells you everything you need to know. Those markets have (had) incredible traffic growth challenges that need to be kept up with (or download speeds go to cr-p real quick and mod/new build projects take a long time to come to fruition). But, Dan wants to increase the stock price (i.e. his income), so the network is going to "coast" for a while (those employees left behind are expected to pick up the slack). Projects, at least on paper (in the system) can be created to make it look like there is a plan, but if they are not implemented, they are just vaporware/talking points. The VZ wireless network is going to sh!t.

Bluejeans was another buyout and then once failed just walked away

@OP Wireless is done. Had their chance to shine , and blew it with the great 5G home internet absolute disaster. All that money, pi$$ed down the drain. It’s all about the fiber now.

@a7 Good post. I've lost track of all of the failed wireless bridges to nowhere that are still being funded every year. Even though they could have been finished, successful and improving wireless by fixing some of the other failures. Management has repeatedly rejected every proven solution and actually said "This is the path leadership has chosen". And now the people that are more than capable of fixing the issues are leaving or get riffed.

It stinks of self sabotage and makes no sense whatsoever.

@a9 Do tell...

Every thread on here got me thinkin’

@OP You can usually tell the direction a company is going by where it is currently investing it's money.

Failed wireless AI customer service.
Failed wireless app development.
Failed wireless automation (although it isn't promised until Nov).
Failed wireless inventory management system.
Most wireless stores closed or franchised.
Layoffs in wireless that cut the cost of paying the employees at the bottom while protecting leadership so they can transition to other non wireless departments and continue to spread a wealth of knowledge and experience in AI customer service, app development, automation and inventory management.

Billions of dollars invested in partnerships that appear to be all fiber and AI related:

Transitioning legacy offices into data centers.

Getting dark fiber "all lit up again"

Expanding AI training as a free public service to offset the 25% unemployment Dan predicted AI would cause in an interview with the WSJ in April. And the PR doesn't hurt, amiright? (Bernie is still not happy about it)

Corning Supply Agreement: In September 2026, Verizon and Corning announced a multi-year, multi-billion dollar agreement. Corning will supply 80+ million miles of high-density optical fiber to help Verizon expand broadband and build out the connectivity backbone required for the AI economy.

Google Dark Fiber Deal: In July 2026, Verizon signed a deal with Google valued at more than $1 billion. Under this partnership, Google is utilizing Verizon's dark fiber network to connect its AI data centers.

BT Group Joint Venture: In June 2026, Verizon and BT Group agreed to combine their international enterprise operations into a 50:50 joint venture. The combined platform represents approximately $4 billion in annual revenue.

Bain & Tillman Investment: Backing Verizon's infrastructure, Bain Capital and Tillman Global Holdings injected $1.5 billion into Eaton Fiber, a key network operator providing fiber capacity explicitly to accelerate Verizon's broadband rollout.

Frontier Acquisition Completion: Though initially announced earlier, Verizon finalized its massive $20 billion acquisition of Frontier Communications in January 2026, significantly augmenting its nationwide fiber footprint.

And someone in accounting ordered a Keurig for the break room but it might get sent back since, after ten meetings, it still wasn't fully approved because one of fifteen ADs didn't sign off on it.

I am sure wireless will be around for years to come.

Hey 👏 Are any of the board members affiliated with the other partners? I wonder...

@OP I saw it. And then I didn't. But in all seriousness, I haven't a clue. There was the mention of improved speeds I think about a week ago maybe. But the people here that know seemed to think that wasn't entirely accurate.