Started at Schwab a while ago.
I have noticed that less than 50% of the people show up on a given day where I work. Many clock in at 9:30 or later, and are gone by 3:00, plus take a looong lunch break.
I am puzzled. Will the 4 day RTO really matter? Most people are not even showing up 3 days a week now, and nothing seems to happen
Leaders with non-scheduled teams allow flexibility. I don’t mind someone working six hours and completing their tasks, as long as they understand when we need extra time. However, I don’t set them up for ten-hour days either.
Managers care more about the eight.
@31w You are a waged employee with a set schedule. If you were hired to complete tasks and leave at your discretion it would have been mentioned in your employment agreement, and you would have no issue with someone raising it to your manager. I have worked these positions before, it's totally fine. But that is not in your employment agreement. You are paid to work for eight hours, so you work eight hours. You can dance around that all you want, but you, me, and everyone else here knows you just left early because you didn't want to work. You use the excuse of being highly productive, but literally everyone that leaves early says that.
Now try again. We're anonymous here. Be honest.
@2yy still haven’t answered the argument. Do you really believe you have to sit and work 8 hours to be efficient at your job? Yes or no? I’ll go ahead and answer for you, since you seem to be a boomer living in the past. No. The output is the goal, is it not? If I have to do x amount of work, and complete x in y amount of time, the work is done. I’m sorry you can’t wrap your head around that, but it really goes to show how many slow people we have at Schwab.
@270 If your shift is eight hours, you work eight hours. It's a pretty simple arrangement, I'm sure you can wrap your mind around it. You rate yourself more highly here, but clearly you don't believe it or you wouldn't have felt threatened by someone mentioning it to your boss. The reality is you left early because you didn't want to work. That's fine, no one wants to work. But you're not special, you don't have 160 IQ, and you don't work twice as fast as everyone else. That's why you're working a waged job and leaving early instead of working a contract and completing it at your discretion.
We're anonymous here, be honest now.
@28d I really don’t think they’re that smart. I genuinely think they are stupid enough to think working 8 hours a day is the only way you can be productive.
@1xv So what? Are people supposed to not have kids and become a castrated drone for a corporation? Not everyone here is a drone or an executive who can hire a nanny to take care of their kids.
@270 They clearly do at Schwab. Just look at the mo--ns on this thread. They are so unproductive that I can accomplish more in 30 minutes than they can accomplish in 60 hours then they see me as a threat.
@23r so what’s your argument? That the only way to be productive is to work 8 hours? You don’t truly believe that, do you? Please tell me people that think that way don’t exist.
@e2 Sure bro, you're not lazy you're just a secret productivity genius. Then you shouldn't feel intimidated that you were reported, anyone above you would be happy to have your work right?
It’s a total joke! People work 10-3 and then have to “get the kids” and “have their phones”. No one checks. If you have a kid you get a pass and work part time for the constant sick kids, doctor appointments, kid activities etc. There is great work life balance just no “working”. You’re punished for working. You’re rewarded for walking around talking all day and car pooling kids around.
The EC love posts like these. The taddle tale has accomplished in-fighting amongst employees to distract, once again, from what the real issue is. Leadership and lack of morality when it comes to their employees. Don’t worry OP, they still don’t care about you, but boy do they appreciate people like you that stick up for them.
Please. As a leader, there’s nothing I like more than having a report tattle-tale on a peer. Better when you bother my leadership with petty complaints when you know nothing of circumstances.
Please, if you are seeing something then say something. If your manager isn't doing anything about it it then escalate it.
@ee what is your role, and is this for all departments across all locations? I have a friend in STL and it seems like it's not really tracked there, or at least for his role
@ee thank you for your support
Hourly vs salaried makes a bit of a difference in this debate.
I come to office atleast 1 hour late and leave sometimes early and sometimes late as well. Primarily because I have meetings right at 9am and I need time to handle my chores at home. That doesn't mean I don't work 8 hrs a day. There are several days I work >10 hrs a day, so I assume the leadership understands that. If not, we have a leadership problem. I am sure many are in the same boat.
The person coming in late and leaving early probably causes his teammates more work since they have to pick up the slack his laziness
We receive quarterly badge report summaries. Lack of compliance may affect bonuses, raises, promotions, and retention, officially. However, it’s department-based, and my division doesn’t care. About 70% of my reports are non-compliant with RTO3 and will be for RTO4. It’s a bad policy, but the inconsistency makes it worse.
@d8 Maybe I'm just more productive than you and can figure out how to automate repetitive tasks and make improvements to processes. I know plenty of people at Schwab who work 80 hours a week and accomplosh very little. I assume you fit in that category.
I frequently log in early or late to take care of things. Also on weekends Part of me doing this without demanding overtime I should be legally getting, is that I come in after traffic dies down and leave sometimes before and sometimes after it is bad in the afternoon.
If they track religiously, I will work my 8 hours in the office and do nothing more, or make a very large stink about overtime.
@d6 "How dare that guy tell my manager I'm leaving early!" lmao between the psycho C-suites and the incredulously lazy, this company has it all!
@d1
I had someone who snitched on me to my manager because I was going to the office late and leaving early. My manager didn't say who but I want to report that person to their manager for not doing their job and watching what other people do instead.
This is such a d-mb post. Are the peers salaried or hourly?
What are you getting at with this post?
If you need to Karen others, maybe report to their manager if they aren’t working or getting their work done.
Most people that report like this are actually the lazy gossipy ones…
4 out of 3 is good number