Layoffs are now always a possibility. I'm not saying to leave, though. You can be happy with your job and still pay attention to what's happening outside the company. Know which employers are hiring and keep track of what your skills are worth in the market. That doesn't mean sending out applications every night. It just means you won't be starting from zero if something happens.
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@1ry Look at this: https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDP_RPCH@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD/EUQ -- US growth 2.2% (pathetic); France = 0.9%; Germany = 0.8%; Canada = 1.5%; Italy = 0.5% (All very pathetic)
@1r8 wrong information on almost all points.
@1qq This is such a typical viewpoint of non-US workers. Read the article in Foreign Affairs magazine about the stagnation in the EU. Canada is no better.
So, it's a trade-off. If you want worker protections, live and work somewhere where there is no economic growth, but you can keep your (low-paying) job.
OR -- go somewhere with a strong entrepreneurial and economic growth mindset and risk having to look for a (high-paying) job every few years.
@1q Yep they're just another brainwashed American who thinks having basic worker protections is "socialism" even though Germany is one of the most nakedly capitalistic countries on the planet.
Meanwhile if an American loses their job, they also lose health insurance and can suddenly go bankrupt and lose their house if they so much as get in an car accident. Oh and don't feed me bs about cobra. Have fun playing $800 per month per family member to keep your insurance (while you're unemployed no less)
@1g3 that is only true of the united states. All other countries are actually civilised and actually have employment protections that help with the power imbalance between employees and employers. Look outside of your narrow blinkered world to see the actual civilized world that does things better than the hive of villainy
@1hs I agree with that statment.
@1g3 Lay offs will always be part of business.
Having an environment so toxic where people have to leave without redundancy is the part I am uncomfortable with.
SAP is still a good place to work. Not perfect, but good.
When was a place ever a safe place to work? A person could be laid off at any time anywhere. That’s what at will employment means. No one is safe anywhere unless you live in a socialist country, and then there are other problems.
@1ex Instead of a lump of coal, Santa will leave a toothbrush.
They're making this lists they're checkingnthem twice they really care whose naughty or nice. The layoff is coming to town.
@123 Surely there are no repercussions at Signavio. One man who had an SA report against him was promoted to Vice President a couple years ago. SA at SAP won't stop till perpetrators are punished instead of rewarded.
Make love, not hate!
@123 I just realized Indian caste hiring is real.
@196 since 2022, 18 scandals is too many for an LOB. This is a Signavio problem and not just an SAP problem. It's clearly because of too many people in a solution area who are culturally different and will never properly adapt to SAP ethics. SAP should have replaced Signavio management with SAP management back in 2022 and this would have never happened. Instead they focus too much in keeping the original Signavio people. This acquisition was a big mistake for many reasons.
@196 you were doing great right up to the last moment and your racism slipped out, well tried i suppose
@123 Don‘t lie, Tommy.
@123 all Indians in Germany should be remigrated as soon as possible
An Indian man at Signavio tried to mo---t a German woman at the Code Camp party. And their management is making all this hush hush and go away because according to them, Indians and Bangalore is very important for Germany. This needs to stop.
@xq Don't diss the board. They are decent people at heart.
The board must be so happy that we are fighting amongst each other and no one is observing them emptying SAP money into their own pockets as bonuses.
@sa thank you, US Representative of South Carolina, Nancy Mace.
Make love, not hate.
@r4 How do you know? What if some "transwoman" consider themselves to be women? They would just say they are women. If SAP is going to hire men who think they're women then they should make RTO optional. Otherwise, they force women to share a restroom with men. That's unacceptable.
@n3 I fully agree. Engineers should run the show, not money men.
And in my experience, Asians are the best engineers. Just remember Vishal… great guy.
@mw because SAP isn't run by engineers or people enthused about tech, its run by the money men and useless suits from management consultants and like every other business that has given themselves over too them they all eventually wither away, just look at how far companies like IBM have fallen
If you replace management in every solution area with AI, it will be years before anyone notices. And yet they are going after important roles such as developers by trying to get rid of them. The safest job at SAP is HR because they require "personal interactions" and cannot be replaced by AI. It is so sad to see a once great company like SAP get rid of their most important talent just so the executive board can get another million in their bonus.
@j9 As Zitron has said, SaaS vendors... the software industry has run out of ideas.
SAP has to hire more Asians.
Talk to anyone in the tech industry and they are fatigued by AI this AI that. That's because so many shareholders have skin in the AI trade in making sure people are forced to buy this garbage at bloated prices. Who wants to pay a bot to summarize things for you? It's like the economy has run out of innovations outside of AI.
Being told everyday that you are to use Joule to train your own replacement su-ks as well.
@ab Unfortuantly this is a very wide illness across the industry at the moment. Their wrong of cause and good companies realise this is a case for expansion not retraction. But SAP is bloated and slow, full of far to many potificating people at the top who are so far devoirced from the realities on the ground they can make sweaping statemnts about just letting AI do things when we cant even create a useful copilot. For crists sake, half the skills require you manually run playwight on a terminal to get them to work.
I can't wait for the board to replace all these migrants with AI. It makes me actually root for them. With this SAP and Germany can have growth similar to how they have in US tech right now.
@ab trust your board... to not replace themselves with AI
@ab They might hate European and American employees, but certainly not Indian ones.
Indians are great.
The executive board, Hr and supervisory board want to replace a majority of employees with AI. As long as they don't change that mindset SAP is also not a safe workplace. If you're not living under a rock, you will see the hate for employees in their comments and interviews. They call employee salaries and benefits the third largest expense to the company and they want us gone so that money can go to them in 2027 and 2028 when most of them conclude their contract.