On a scale of 0 to 10, with 10 being extremely anxious, how worried are you heading into next week given everything going on with layoffs at Optum?
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Wow as I read through this thread , I feel like I am a bottom feeder employee, I guess I am poverty level working here. And yes I moved into several different roles,and been deployed as well.
@gb Now I feel even worse to be at $135k for a GL29. Eff this place.
@11x it's not a white collar job board:
Enter TheLayoff.com - The purpose of this site is to provide a space for anyone who'd like to discuss the possibility, likelihood or impacts of layoffs in a company of interest.
@mc what's that's for to do with the fact this site is for White collar job blog. When we are discussing salary, offshoring etc nurses, member facing roles are mixing up the discussion and it's confusing
@gc one day when you or one of your loved ones inevitably needs the care and expertise of a healthcare professional I hope you eat your words.
@gt you are wrong. The bread and butter for UHG is insurance, not clinical. Medicare payer is the money Maker. Insurance is about tech, finance, operations, data, strategy etc.
Nurses do their job for a pay check like everyone else. They follow book rules to the tee. Clock in clock out. Your role is clearly defined. When you clock out you are done. In Tech it's non-stop constant learning and stress. Even vacations and weekends are spent learning.
I agree with the GL30 person that this site deserves more justice to tech workers, all these non white collar people do is whine n not spend any time learning.. There are exceptions ofco9
@gm I cannot believe how people working for a healthcare company berates the very same people who make this company possible to operate.
Sure, we need software engineers, finance people, actuaries (like me), data analysts, etc. But what is the bread and butter of this enterprise? The clinical team - the physicians, APCs, the nurse practitioners PA-Cs, therapists, social workers, case managers, pharmacists, and so much more.
@gc you don't know the right nurses. Most of us are very intelligent. Quite a few in this company are not directly member facing, and are plenty tech savvy. Let's not forget that this company is about taking care of our members.. people, patients. and mostly elderly. Can tech do that? Who most serves the clients whose insurance policies pay us? Clinical people. They/ we are medical professionals with college degrees.
And, this site is for ALL employees, clinical and non clinical. Administrative assistants, nurses, therapists. doctors. and tech. If you want your own site, make one. But please quit insulting the clinicians in this company that actually do the job of taking care if the members it serves.
@e8 I support this GL.30s white collar stance
This website should be for IT, corporate roles only. Clinical folks are members facing roles and not tech savvy at all, not mention they don't have the level of analytical thinking needed to contribute for useful discussions a blog like this. I really haven't seen One Smart nurse. Don't get me wrong, I have seen great nurse because of training, passion, experience etc. but smart? No way. They can't even log in and understand/use basic portals without massive training and constant drama and resistance to change. They in are the reason healthcare tech takes forever to adopt and develop.
@e6 WOW, I am GL 30 and Base is just 205k. I was hired as GL 29 base 170. Did an internal move and the new manager had to push really hard to even get to 200k . I guessy only option is to quit and reapply as external candidate
@e3 Wow. The audacity of this GL 30 person calling care coordinators USELESS. Because he is earning $215K a year.
Mr/Ms High Horse, just so you know, if you skim through all the Optum Layoff threads, you will discover that there are doctors, APCs, NPs, etc (who are earning more than you) who were laid-off as well and no one was whining that they are on this site. Here’s an idea - if you are really bothered by clinicians being on this site, make your own and site for your kind only.
@e3 what are the Doctors?
@ds GL 30, 2 years on the job, I was offered $230K when hired for base. Fully remote as well. Southwest.
@e3 you are just wrong... refer to the home page of this site. And, the clinical people are "white collar "
@ds is that true? Btw I am GL30 and around 215k as well.
@dv member facing clinical is AI proof. The good ones staying or finding roles easy. Health Care had the biggest growth of any sector in the past in several BLS reports. I personally haven't seen onr good CC. They are most useless tbh. And yes this site is for White collar professionals to discuss layoffs, pay etc. look at all the other layoff forums here.. Amazon, Google, capital one, Wells Fargo etc. it's all white collar professionals. Clinical folks need to start their own website
@dt you think so? Ask those care coordinators you spoke about earlier. They are looking at a huge RIF coming soon in Home and Community and they all know it's going to happen..and the data regarding the layoffs is not more relevant to finance roles or as you put it, "white collar ". Lookat the news sometime. Clinical employees are the ones getting laid off all over the country.
AND. People on here DO care about toles other than finance. IT, etc.
@c4 I said nobody cares about those roles HERE, on this portal. They are contaminating the content, averages, layoff data etc which is more relevant for more white-collar tech/business/finance type roles
@c5 215 base is a LOT higher than median for gl30 in UHG . WHY are you lying.. does putting down others make you happy? While I too agree he has no right to dictate who can post, you has lighting him is equally bad
Who cares, pay off all debt minus mortgage, live within your means and for the love of god stop buying new cars. Then it matters less if and when they lay you off.
@bz Sorry to break this to you, if you are only getting $215K for base pay at GL 30 in this company, know that your base pay is not even competitive with current market benchmarks.
I can only assume though that you possibly work for tech/finance/actuary/data/corporate leadership. Nevertheless, you are in no position to dictate which positions are “allowed” to be in this group. This is a site for everyone.
@bz your salary grade and base salary doesn't make you more of a professional than care coordinators who are highly educated. Especially considering your previous comment " nobody cares about the care coordinators ". And, BTW, they are the ones who generate revenue for the company.
@bx I am grade 30, 215 base. Medium COL, remote. Bonus 20%, good RSU. I have worked very very hard to get here.
@bw Since you’re adamant that this site should only be for higher paid employees, can you tell is your salary and we can judge you if you are even earning enough to fit in the category? LOL
@bv let's keep it for higher pay scale folks. Layoffs are more common and affects us more, tbh. They can easily outsource IT vs a nurse, or a PM over a janitor etc
@bn From the sites home page: "Enter TheLayoff.com - The purpose of this site is to provide a space for anyone who'd like to discuss the possibility, likelihood or impacts of layoffs in a company of interest.:
@bn and you know who this site is intended for how?? I thought it was for Optum employees and about concerns around Layoffs. Furthermore, RNs, PTs. OTs, and STs are college educated professionals, some of which have masters and doctorate degrees.
@bq hey, wondering not much CCs at 28 make? Thanks
@bq so they can't go past 28? What happens when they get promoted to 29?
@bn What do you consider “higher income”? Care Coordinators are Grade Level 27-28. Too low of an income for you?
Sorry Mr. C-Suite.
@bk FYI - The care coordinators Optum hires are RNs, PTs, OTs and SLPs. All state-licensed medical professionals.
@bk WHAT???
@am nobody cares about care coordinator here. This website is for White collar jobs
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