After nearly twenty years here, I thought I had some stability. Turns out, I was just another name on a spreadsheet. I worked holidays, covered for others, and still got cut a few years short of retirement. It’s a rough reminder that dedication means nothing once the numbers stop adding up. I’m not bitter, just tired of pretending that loyalty still counts for something.
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@11e Yes -- and don't forget to get your emotional support animal
@11e - "The genuine answer is to get more politically involved and vote for socialist and left wing parties.... Vote for social democracy." That's the correct answer. Which is why millionaires and billionaires (like those who control SAP) propagandize so heavily against it.
@nj - "What can we do to be safer?" BE indepndently wealthy, and stop working for corporations run by callous, self-enriching millionaires and/or billionaires. If there's another way, I'd love to hear it.
@12v Change to another company with a decent corporate culture.
I need to be safe. What can I do to be 100% safe?
@nj The genuine answer is to get more politically involved and vote for socialist and left wing parties. The only way we will ever get safety in careers is with political power and stronger legal protection and unions. Rampant deregulation and hyper-capitalism has created this society where we have tech like AI that can make even entire white collar job markets extinct, and nothing in place for the working class to protect us as the billionaires and ultra-rich execs roll in disgusting levels of riches. Vote for social democracy.
@nj My opinion is we need to build confidence in ourselves and study the market.
If you're in the Fifty's then you probably need to consider backup plans (outside software industry) because we all know that the software industry prefers young engineers
If you're younger then check what the market is looking for and up skill yourself in these areas.
There's a third option, since SAP is not interested in maintaining OnPrem then there will be opportunities in this area depending on the products your expert in.
Unfortunately I don't see other options...
What can we do to be safer?
@hn This is how the elderly tries to get young children to confess to things. "Were you in the cookie jar? Mommy sent your finger prints to the FBI so you better not lie."
LOL
I cant believe adults are saying things like "loyalty doesn't buy security". A company loyal? Wow, this is a 12 year olds thought process.
@gq your IP has been traced already, best you take a rest with the posts.
@d1 Tell me you've never seen Walker Texas Ranger without telling me you've never seen Walker Texas Ranger.
Lighten up dude. I know people are scared. I am glad to see a little bit of humor in here to lighten the mood. The Chuck Norris stuff comes from memes and the over confidence in the board is probably parody.
@a9 yes, 20 years back. Not now anymore, your expertise with Fortune 500 is useless as the people in power see with their myopic eyes. SAP is no exception, people at Oracle also gone through this and people who had to leave any of these companies living happily. Try to be with people whom you like than companies and Brands.
If someone has the information, what are the locations that have been impacted so far ?
FR and GER have not been impacted even if they host maintenance on OnPrem products where the numbers are down every year and SAP stoped investing in them.
Is it in preparation ?
Having 20+ years of experience at SAP I wonder if I'm the list...
@cs Please explain what you enjoy or the internal satisfaction you experience when you troll people here ? Honest question, I assume you an adult working in the IT industry (perhaps not SAP, but regardless) I am amazed at the energy and effort trolls like CK fan and the Chuck Norris id--t put in. Do you not have something better to do in your life ?, I am probably at fault as well because I visit this site and read the comments. But as an SAP employee I found it very interesting in the past.
If you trust the board and work really hard, you will only be sacked if it is really necessary.
@a3 Surprised? I worked for a financial services company they had these low rank and file employees dance and prance around at these office parties. They were never looked at seriously for a promotion. Never volunteer and commit to company activities as they will interpret that as you having too much spare time at hand. And less important.
@a6+1k77bh39k even if the management and board gets fired, they would have earned millions cashing out and millions stockpiled over the years and decades. So they don't care less.
@a3 I feel for you, but when did "social contract" ever come into play, in an employment relationship? We are each individually responsible for stewarding our own relationships, and in the end, an employment relationship is purely transactional, no matter what stories we tell ourselves.
Where is the human bond? People are trust worthy and helpful as the products were superior and complicated to deliver. The mastery helped Fortune 500 once to be useless.
It’s all going to come back at them, and I think that will happen sooner than we realize.
Same story - 20 years of the nights and weekends helping critical issues, active participant in office activities & volunteering, travelled wherever needed at short notice. Weeks and weeks each year away from my family.
What it earned me was getting cut in the wave at the start of this year after more than 2 decades of my life giving SAP everything I had.
So yeah, the sooner people realize they're nothing to SAP other than a row on a spreadsheet, the better. For years I was foolish enough to think the social contract was still a thing and loyalty mattered.