No More WFH Monday. Everyone back to the office. Heard it here first
24 replies (most recent on top)
@10y it has less to do with Boomers and more about how grossly inept the current level of management is. Shell's efforts to promote yes men and DEI candidates is now in full effect.
We need everyone on site because our reliability is not great.
Ok, what reliability tasks or area of focus do people need to work on?
I don't know. If people are on site they will talk.
So we don't have a plan from senior leadership?
No
@114 That makes you right at the start of Gen X - one of the oldest ones. You were too young to really know or be any part of the hippie years so this make you separate from the Boomers and at front end of Gen X. And part of the Gen X group that is either leaving, just left or is near leaving now. In 5-7 years, almost all of Gen X will be gone from Shell. For sake of argument, let's define Gen X as born about 1965 through 1980. It's essentially the very first kids of the Baby Boomers, from when they were about 18 through their mid/late 20s.
@z5 61 turning 62 this year
@z5 Re: Boomers Agree. It's even been mostly the early Gen X people getting severance or SVS opportunities since about 2021, already 5 years. Boomers have been long gone for quite some time.
@yt not sure there are too many boomers left at Shell. Youngest ones are 67?
finally something i agree on the shell boomers with
we should fire everyone who doesn’t come in and only hire people for five days a week in office and see what “the culture” does to our stock and productivity. i totally agree!!!!
You are the one who chose to only respond to my role situation.
The key point is actually that the world has moved on from in-office work. Lots of companies make lots of money with no office, and this is only accelerating. You can’t comprehend this because you’re a relic of your time.
Soon, most office workers will be talking to AIs more than people. It’s already true or close for multiple roles.
@vn I’m also for attrition of those too lazy to come to the office.
@tw No, the problem is that what you see as being "key points" are not key at all. They are bordering on trivial. Or you fail to understand that your situation is not at all like that of most. So it's a kind of narcissism. Good luck with that.
Ignoring key points that you don’t like seems to be your strong suit. No wonder you like it at Shell, you’ve got leadership potential by our unique standards.
@px Again - most are not sole members of an international team. In fact, very few are in that condition. I would agree that in a case where one might be sole member at a location, then office attendance is a little different. But if so, your case is the exception, not the rule.
@px I’m for attrition of those too lazy to come to the office.
It’s not collegial because Shell quit investing in people and amenities and universities. It’s not collegial because pop culture has fragmented into a million pieces due to the loss of society mostly consuming the same content. It’s not collegial because covid turned people into shut-ins who never leave their house unless they have to. You can have anything delivered now. These services arose to meet the challenges of covid.
The world you are describing no longer exists and that is directly due to the penny-pinching choices of Shell and global events. You can’t unwind the hands on the clock. And it’s extremely and obviously wrong to blame people for any of this.
You need to quit being nostalgic and become realistic. If Shell wants to be 5 days a week in office that’s their choice. It’s not necessary and it’s not the new normal. Nobody under 40 will happily work there ever again. Your problem is that the world has passed you by so quickly that you can’t even comprehend that what is normal has shifted.
This is all nothing more than a measure to force attrition, and if you believe anything else you’re quite naive. I notice that you didn’t even have an answer to my question about what I’m supposed to do to move the needle in the office as the only member of an international team. Instead you hand waved it away. This is a further clue that you’re stuck in good old days of big American teams that no longer exist.
@kd Most teams are NOT solely multinational. In other words, MOST of the work is with at least several colleagues, of which often one or two are a lot younger and need the opportunity to quickly ask questions and see a bit of what you are doing to manage their own growth and success of the team. Look down a few threads for the post on a more collegial atmosphere, even on into the 2000s or 2010s. Then look around at how it is now? Is it better? Is the work being done better? Then answer that is obvious to anyone who has been in both eras is: no. And it's not even close.
My boss is in London and my coworkers are in India.
What do you want me to do in the office after my 6am calls to accelerate my role with collaboration and vibrant energy?
Small talk about streaming shows maybe? This is an international company and many teams are structured this way. If you’re going to argue that being in an office is key to collaboration then you owe an explanation on how it helps our numerous multi-national teams.
@gm Excuses, same heard time and time again. Of course remote work can be done and done well sometimes. But watch the disintegration. It's happening before our very eyes, and it is very obvious to anyone playing attention. A HUGE reason for that is people no longer working together. And let us not pretend that "old fashioned" and "incapable" are synonyms. They are not.
I am glad we are all in agreement.
It sounds like you don’t even understand the concept of how to do work unless you’re in an office, so you belong here and I don’t. Letting the old-fashioned and incapable stay at Shell is a good idea, because I can laugh at the stock price being 5th place at best after the oil war is over.
@c8 Hope you do. We have things to get done. You aren't wanted or needed if that's your attitude.
Thank God. We are meant to work in an office. Working from home is boring
Being on the circus 🤡
If this is true, I have other employment options and I will use them. There will never be a better time to be experienced in deploying AI. Job offers explosive my inbox every day.
You have to assume that attrition is what they want, and so I am more than happy to make one final contribution to the company by providing it.
@bt is she computational team?
Is this rolled out globally?
That’s fine. I will just go out to the car for my Monday lunch naps.