Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

Put it this way, I would not be putting on my DinkedIn "20 yrs of managerial experience" or anything like that. At all.

@3aj How many projects have you seen run aground at GM with no real penalty assessed to anyone? Up to, and including, the bankruptcy. Quarterly stock performance is everything. It su-ks, but that's the reality.

@2a6 Middle managers are very useful to upper managers. Upper management use middle management to insulate themselves from a lot of issues. That's far more useful than an implementation of the latest tech. That's what I was trying to say. Others have said it more succinctly than I have in this topic.

@3aj
The AI tech Bros that were running around saying that human office workers would be replaced by a year or so were telling a huge self-serving lie, which was gleefully repeated through the media. The boardroom executives were wetting themselves thinking about the insane labor cost they would cut. They fell for the lie.
If you do a cost analysis/comparison between self-hosting open models and renting AI compute, the AI compute is still cheaper. But how many of these executives are going to think that it's another get out of jail free card? They are in so far over their heads. Who will ever hold them accountable? I believe it will be investors and customers. And it won't be pretty.
After the fallout when these companies are hiring with a great sense of urgency, if you are desperate enough to find yourself coming back for more, you will have to adjust your expectations and attitude accordingly.

All the CEOs who are laying off employees because AI can do everyone's jobs for half the price are going to be shocked when there are no more subsidies and they have to pay full cost, which is like 5 times the cost of hiring a person.

The CEOs evil plans will be foiled.

Ai companies are spending huge amounts of money on data centers and subsidizing their customers, because if people had to pay the full cost no one would use AI.

I don't think any AI company is actually profitable, and you can't lose money forever.

The AI bubble is bursting and it's going to bring the entire global economy down with it. It's three times bigger than the .com bubble. It feels like the last 6 years have been all leading to this big moment. I hope no one says, "no one saw this coming."
It doesn't take a genius to see that we won't be selling too many new cars in the near future.
The most tragic thing is that 401ks and pensions are going to get wiped out.

@2pt
Managers aren't protecting managers out of kindness or some kind of loyalty. They are protecting other managers because the people beneath them are carrying their water. That's it. But when the upper manager is decide that the middle managers are expired milk, they won't hesitate to use technology like AI to wipe them out.

Managers protect managers.

If they get laid off at all, that group takes a much smaller hit by percentage than worker bees.

@1bt
Can you explain yourself better?
Are you saying that we can't get rid of managers because they outsource?
If so, you do realize that every manager has a manager going up the chain?
There are levels of management on the lower rung that are completely unnecessary. The upper managers know this.

@10e "We outsource everything else, why not outsource management too?" Because management are the ones who control outsourcing. Nothing happens but what management makes happen, for better or worse.

Will the AI manager only hire Indians if we name it Raj?
"agent_raj"

We need to make sure that GM maintains it's diversity.

@108
Upper managers also have budgets and also need to demonstrate cost cutting.
In fact, I suspect that the pressure for cost cutting is even more intense for these people. It would would be a matter of hiring consultants who could deploy the AI software. The consultants could hire contractors to do the testing. None of this is complicated. All of it is feasible.

Managers control subscription budget to AI services. The human fiefdom will continue.

You are the expert on obsolete

How does AI look in a leather jacket?

Can AI do fireside chats and throw pizza parties?
Can AI rock a pantsuit and can it have an entourage of *** kissers?

I don’t think so!