Why does everyone think that people who have 25+ years with the company are old and rich at T? Seriously, I still have little kids to raise and put through college. Some us were young when we started, have 25 years and aren’t even close to retirement age yet. Tired of hearing about the old people with 25 years seniority need to take their old asses and leave.
Louder for the people in the back, @Zbzx9FK-5tfa.
Lots of us came here for a career not a job. Many of us have continually evolved our skills over time and still do. Many of the folks on here who spout off about older employees are just insecure about their own relevance to the business. A solid senior employee who is knowledgeable that leaves does not necessarily correlate to a job for someone else, many times they leave a vacuum that can’t be filled by another employee for years. It’s not all coding skills or learning the latest buzzwords or computer language. Deep knowledge of the core business units and how they deliver service is still necessary to make the leadership goals. Yes, Somebody has to actually know how the services and systems work and integrate with each other to keep a happy customer shelling out their hard earned dollars to us.
These younger folk don't want a job anyway. They can just keep living with their parents and playing video games. I wouldn't retire so they could have a job. Most likely, if you retire they'd be out of a job anyway, cause who would do their work?
Yes, right!! I applied, I worked hard all these years, I have paid many dues along the way. I'm not just going to step aside so someone younger can take my place because I have been here too long in their eyes. It's my right to stay in a spot if I am needed & doing a good job. Never said it was my right to have AT&T keep me. That's another story. This board is ridiculous & so is the mentality of some of these posters..
Earned your right to be here? You sound like those sad sacks at GM when it went bankrupt whonhad no idea why their terrible vehicles could not compete with cars built by younger companies. Sorry, but this isn't a time when you have a "right" to be employed.
Thank You OP. My thoughts exactly. I started at 18 and have almost 28 years. So even though I have been here a while still not near the rule of 75 to be able to leave. I been here too long to up & leave-earned my right to be here & although I'm not a millennial am still not anywhere near old enough to quit working.
Retired at 47 with 30 years and 1 month service because work moved to another state and didnt want to follow my job. Retirement at young age isn't what you think it is remained retired for a couple of years enjoyed travel etc and re-hired with AT&T have since bridged my time and about to have 36 years service at age 55, no plans to retire anytime soon but at least in fortunate enough to have options unlock some others.
I find that most people want to stay until 65 and Medicare eligible if not the cost of post retirement medical is cost prohibitive for most.
To @ZgFsq6H-bpt..What one person calls financially secure is not always the same to another...everyone has different level of what they consider living......
The days of someone working 40 years at T or any other company are long gone. When the current group of old timers retires---That's it
I’m 40 with 23yrs of service.
Thankfully that is their choice. And a good reason you're not in charge.
DumbA$$ Troll.
I work with folks that have 45-47 years of service. Their houses are paid for and by their own words, they have no financial obligations. There are eligible for Soc Sec and medicare. They could apply for SIPP and save people's jobs who were surplussed. (and take an extra $40-50K home with them) Time to go.
Funny seniority seniority that’s all you hear honestly if you been with a company and didn’t CYA by learning skills and using your position you got comfortable and paying for it now. This company has been doing this sh-- for decades we all seen it coming but we play a blind eye saying IM GOOD IM OK!!!
Latest information on age discrimination- it is starting younger than ever. The new reality is GENERATION X 39-54 is starting to feel the effects of age discrimination. Average age of employees at Google, Apple, Amazon and other top tech companies is 31. If you are say 50, yes you are old to these people. You are old and out of date. Companies do not want you. It’s not days of old when companies wanted experienced people.
I can speak to this- I will be 60 and was laid off 9 months ago. Age discrimination is illegal but companies have sneaky ways around it. Dig in your heels and hang in there, if that is what you want, but if you have been with the company ANY length of time you KNOW if they want you GONE- then You’re GONE.
Pr some people got credit for service time in college if they were co-OP student.
I took a voluntary retirement in Feb '19 after 18 yrs with the company. I was lucky enough to hire on when they offered pensions to managers. Maxed out my contributions to my 401K since day one and tried to be thrifty (not always successful at it). Worked my tail off but also tried to take a class from time to time and eventually got my degree too. Prior to coming to ATT I got laid off at another telecom company (it was rough). Health care isn't an issue since am also retired military and have my health care from that and in decent shape physically. Also start early social security this month since I turned 62 last month. No worries. I would have plenty of them if not for my military retirement/healthcare. Plus had a lot of friends at work who needed a decent job more than I did at this point and were good people. I see both sides of the coin here. On the one hand, if you like what you do, keep doing it. I loved mine. But to be honest the cycle of layoffs started getting to me. So did the "do more and more with less and less." On the other hand, if you can leave early and have set yourself up for it...step out and start a new chapter. Be it a new career if you want or enjoy your golden years. But I realize some aren't built that way. I know plenty of people who after retiring they didn't last long. My goal is to have more fun in my 60s that I did growing up in the 60s. Wish everyone the best of luck. Hope things turn around.
In many parts of the company people lost their retirement medical benefits, and pensions weren't far behind. Don't expect people to retire early.
Insurance is usually the reason many people stay beyond thirty years. Either for themselves or their family. ( Yeah, ObamaCare isn't an option considering what the deductible / oop costs are when you actually need to USE it. )
Financially, they're fine, as long as they have decent insurance to cover those $$$ medical conditions that the 20-somethings have yet to experience :D ( Don't worry, you'll get there too )
I retired after 13 years, in my mid 30’s Caught everyone off guard but not really.
Live below your means. Max out your investments.
The best things in life are free.
Im 51 with 31 years service. If you think I’m going to apologize to anybody for hiring on before they did you are sadly mistaken. When I hired on we understood that we didn’t have any seniority and it wasn’t a problem. Why is it that people can’t grasp that concept today?
I say stay at least until u reach full draw on Social Security if you want. After that, barring some financial disaster/hangup you may be trying to recover from(health, divorce, college for kids, etc), if the only reason u r still here is to have something to do, check on out if it will save a job. Go work at the hardware store, volunteer in your community, or take up fishing if u need a reason to get out of bed.
And these same people asking you when you are going to retire will do the same thing when they get there. You never know what people will encounter along their journey. I have 40 years, not planning on going anywhere, I love my job.
At 50 I had 32 years.
Senior man on my crew.
Best duty, schedule, vacations. OT was mine if I wanted it.
Why would I leave?
Retired at 55 with 37 years.
Don’t like it? You should have been hired in 1978 then-before me.
Seniority seems unfair only to those without it.
when i was a newbie i worked with 2 people who had hired on at 16 as operators and literally had 30 years under age 50. what people do with their career decisions is not one damn bit of your business
Over 50 y/o with over 25 years of service at att? If you’re not financially secure by then, you never will be financially secure.
@ccr, that was one of the most honest and sensible posts I’ve read in a long time, my hat is off to you.
All posters have three chances to prove that they are not dead between the ears....
When they think of what to say, in a post.
When they write what they want to say.
When they re-read what they said.
Yet, it never seems to fail, stupidity leaks out even with all those chances!
As for some of the posts on this Thread, I will say this.....The urban term Nimno, a fool or idi0t, was not used over a 100 years ago but I will pass along a quote that so aptly applies:
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
Mark Twain
SMHIA at the vitriol at the folks with long service. So what if they dont want to leave voluntarily? It’s nit possible they love what they do? Now if the are whining and complaining I can understand telling them to leave.
Used to make the same comments back in the day. Now I understand that life happens. Stupid college costs, elderly parents costs, etc. Remember a guy who had to adopt a couple of grandkids later in life. Most people don’t share their issues.
I started at 22 and am in my 25th year. I feel like I can physically work another 15-20, although I wouldn’t mind retiring with 30 years at age 52 and trying something else.
Right?!!! I had 40 years at 62. Just barely old enough for Social Security. After I had about 35 people kept asking when I was gonna retire. Kind of annoying and sort of rude. Several of them thought they would get my job if I left, but it turned out T didn’t fill the spot. Another Comm Tech added my office to his work load.