ATO Feinstein call was yesterday 5/22...5% is the number we were told are impacted....All will find out who is in and who is out in a few weeks right about the time folks identified the date as 6/14. Just one question..What is the psychology of bringing a larger universe on these initial surplus calls than those actually targeted to be surplused?…..Folks will all sweat it out for a few weeks until they are told they are out or they are safe....Why in God's name put so many through this barbaric ritual rather then just identify upfront who is surplused?. It is certain that the names are already given as to who will be going..Therefore, why put undue stress and pain on others who in the end will not be surplused?….It is a given that they already know who will be leaving by the time they have the first call....It is a cruel and unnecessary practice and not good for overall morale.....
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These days everyone is sweating it out 365 days a year as the surplus just keeps coming it seems every couple of months so folks are all sweating it out .....and it is apparent by morale.....
To @ZdLhQ3o-4pwf...The OP asked why they include others in the universe who are not impacted...A good majority who are told to join these calls are not going to be impacted....In the end everyone hears about the surplus anyways but not everyone is asked to take the surplus call.....Half on the call will be surplus and half will be saved...The OP's question was why have employees join the call and not only the one's to be surplus which is a known fact that it has already been decided by the time they have the call but they have 10% join the call when only 5% are to be laid off...Capiche?
The following represents the currently scheduled VTP/Surplus declaration windows for represented occupational employees for the year 2019. Some CWA Union websites have this published.
Declaration Date VTP Off Payroll Date Surplus Off Payroll Date
1st Quarter 12/14/2018 01/18/19 02/22/19
2nd Quarter 03/15/19 04/19/19 05/17/19
3rd Quarter 06/14/19 07/19/19 08/23/19
4th Quarter 09/13/19 10/18/19 11/15/19
They tell you because you likely are going to hear about it anyway, and they don't want to give credibility to false rumors. If they didn't tell you in advance, and rumors spread, and it was true, then every time someone starts a rumor you are going to believe it. If they just officially tell you it's coming, then next time you hear a false rumor you will ignore it because you know they would just tell you if it was true. You are complaining cause you have to sweat it out for 3 weeks, but if they didn't announce it when the decision was made, then you'd be sweating it out 365 days a year for the axe to come every morning without warning.
" the AM’s do have power. "
Maybe. Our AM got tapped on the shoulder ( via phone call ) during the bloodbath in January.
Coupled with others who were also picked, we knew this was coming down from waaaaay up high.
The AMs know who is going and staying then pretend they had nothing to do with it
@ZdLhQ3o-aon It wasn’t a spelling correction. It was a grammar correction. Is English your second language you misspelling grammatically challenged imbecile?
what is a snowflake??????????
Managment jobs s---.. thank god I am not managment.... have to go by senority... i am safe lol
OP sounds like a snow flake. Oh no!! Your feelings are being hurt!
Its simple to know who is staying and going. Put all the managers on list including yourself. Then rank them on who your boss likes the most, that will give you a clear understanding of where you land as far as getting the axe or not.. No need to include performance/tenure and experience in the ranking list, as those metrics don't play a role.
@brq Has nothing to do with whether or not AM's have any "power". They are following strict guidelines for how these are to be handled, including the "safe" call on notification day. They don't have any say in how this is to be handled from a procedural standpoint. To the OP, they may have an idea who will be going at the start of this, but over the next couple weeks those final decisions are made and approved before notification day.
The company is just trying to be inclusive. A team building exercise. A way for everybody to have something in common.
Only 5% this time around? Historically at&t waits until the end of fiscal year accounting to make a decision for a surplus to balance the margins for the street.
@brq: the AM’s do have power.
So the AM’s can play their game as if they have power. They’ll make sure you feel like you’re the one being surplused, maybe even beyond the surplus notification date. They get a kick out of knowing what you don’t know. They’ll place a call to everyone on the day of surplus notification, just to add suspense. “I’m just calling to let you know you are....”safe or surplused.” Save that drama for your momma AM. That’s the exact behavior that invites violence to the workplace
we habe another DXXX BAG speling Vee troll... LOL
@ZdLhQ3o-nys Could or COULDN'T? Try using the correct phrase you imbecile.
It’s way more fun this way
The company would say legal makes them do this song and dance but I think it’s just another way to mess with people and get people to leave without having to pay severance.
Actual layoff news instead of that id--t constantly posting nonsense. Thanks for the update OP.
Why? cause they could give 2 phucks about anyone!