https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/05/att-promised-7000-new-jobs-to-get-tax-break-it-cut-23000-jobs-instead/
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"https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/04/att-ceo-says-a-corporate-tax-cut-would-mean-thousands-more-jobs-for-hard-hat-workers.html"
Thanks for the link. What a fricken liar did you notice how he looked when he talked about the kind of jobs and saying it again. Just by the way he looked you could tell he wasn't telling the truth.
We should post responses to that article directing people to this site while SLO’s commenting on the regular surplus events we go through
att lied - isn't that a code of business conduct violation lol
My take from the article is "There are fewer jobs in parts of the business that are declining and facing technology shifts."
That's 2020 in a nutshell. New technology, obsolescence. That is what the landline business is all about.
Here's a different article.
https://www.lightreading.com/mobile/5g/atandt-taking-broadband-nationwide-in-3-5-years-via-fiber-and-5g/d/d-id/751455?
AT&T's CEO said that the operator expects to be able to offer a "true, high-speed Internet network throughout the United States" in the next three to five years via a combination of fiber and 5G.
And if it is 5G, that is not going to be that labor intensive.
@Z3U6mCN-1pka Cool story bro.
What the use cases will look like? How stupid! Use cases are scenarios, they aren’t reality until they are made into a product and deployed. Randall needs to go back and re-watch his online training.
My father in law was a linesman for AT&T, then the various Bell companies then Verizon for 30 years. He started when he was 21 and retired when he was 51 about 15 years ago.
He regularly brags how the union would set hour allotments for each job and how he could complete work in 30 minutes that the union required scheduling for 5 hours. Most of the time he spent on the clock involved him hiding his work truck in the woods behind his house and sneaking into his house to work on home improvements while he was being paid.
Every once in a while he would get caught doing something wrong and would be suspended. The union would then represent him and provide him groceries and other items during the suspension. Eventually Verizon paid him a lump sum of a quarter million dollars to go away which along with saving money from decades of generous overtime rules including double time and a half on holidays let him retire at the age of 51.
That’s a scenario they created. There’s no reason the man in the van can’t hang up a WISP device or whatever. I used to run a field tech services org — it’s not that expensive to train new tasks, the hardest thing is hiring reliable people. Your old school HP and IBM CEs would service everything for 95% of service calls.
They are busting the CWA, period.
The same thing happened with National Grid in upstate NY. They’ll use 5 subcontractors and 10 guys to do a job that was handled by a 2-3 man crew 20 years ago. The hilarious thing is that that union didn’t have the stupid separation of duty stuff the contractors do. I saw one instance where they had a subcontractor on site specifically to spray bee spray.
The main issue here is that AT&T employs a large workforce that is not relevant to the current (Fiber) and upcoming (5G Cellular/WISP) service technologies being rolled out en masse.
Which means as their legacy business units are retired or pulled back, they are letting go numerous employees while simultaneously hiring a slightly smaller number of more educated (up-to-date) workers to staff up their new business units.
What we are seeing here is the decline of a historically booming industry (linemen) as the overhead required to maintain these networks becomes more specialized in nature and involves fewer people than before.
Now, the ethical strategy to mitigate impacting their historically loyal workforce would be to re-train the copper linemen to work with the new technologies.
The problem with this is that its' expensive. Insanely expensive. The training is made available to many of their current workers, in as many areas as possible (where the skills will be relevant) however at the end of the day an individual 'first-line' manager will not advocate for 64 year old Joe Schmoe with average performance stats to get this expensive training if 24 year old Billy Bob with a 'young man's' performance record is also asking to get trained.
Keep believing he didn't say it. Watch for yourself...
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/04/att-ceo-says-a-corporate-tax-cut-would-mean-thousands-more-jobs-for-hard-hat-workers.html
Att never made a promise of 7000 jobs for tax breaks!! That’s just not true!
@Z3U6mCN-nbw if you don't like your current situation here. . ? I hear Venezuela is nice. Free healthcare, free dental, free everything. Adios!
Randall said: "This is the first of many experiences across the AT&T portfolio,” he said. “It’s important for us to look at what the use cases for these experiences will look like and how they’ll evolve.” LOL
Key words, Portfolio, evolve, but innovation is missing? LOL