Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

WFH, Who They Are & What They Face

The WFH’s are seen, by and large (by those I will call the short sighteds) as lazy, sit at homes who are enjoying the good life then whine because the ‘gravy train is coming to an end....no sympathy for you guys, get your butts back in here like me and everyone else.’ Are you correct in your assessment? Sometimes you are, most of the time, you’re simply not.

In the past years I’ve come to know a single parent with a special needs child, a man going through kidney dialysis twice a week, one woman fighting back Cancer through the Chemo treatments and all rising early and working late to maintain good, twice a year reviews with management, all to maintain their level of survival based on the ability to WFH......and I have only scratched the surface.

WFH’s like these, and there are many more than you think, would love to have a more normal existence. But for you who don’t have that empathy gene.....it’s safe to say you haven’t walked in their path, as a single parent, a caregiver to an elderly parent in your home, fighting off illness and it’s because your own life experiences have not yet made it into these unexplored situations, no matter your age group, it’s easier to condemn than understand.

Please get informed ladies & gentleman, and learn that your perceptions are, in many cases, not their reality. AT&T can change their policy as they please, and as often as they please, it’s certainly their right. But when WFH’s are granted the ability to WFH, even the manager had to go higher up the chain to get permission.....lives will be affected by the decisions made, not just the employee.

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Post ID: @OP+Xz6PHsU

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I have been working from home for about 8 years and like everyone I am not happy about the policy change, especially the lack of communication about what the expectations are. Re: OP's post - WFH is just that, work from home. It should not be used as an opportunity to skip out on childcare, etc or to take care of the sick to the extent that it creates a problem now that one has to report to the office. Needless to say, if special arrangements were permitted / granted at the time WFH was permitted for someone that is a different situation, as it might be for those who sick themselves. For the later I would hope there is another provision for them to get an exception. In fact I think there is but cannot recall what it is called. There is an application/ approval process for it.

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Post ID: @2gdv+Xz6PHsU

Today in NJ there is snow & ice. I know people who were terrified to tell their boss they would work from home so they put their life on the line & drove in so they didn't show VPN time. So the Dallas boys have them by the balls, living in fear & intimidation. What a sad way to live. Not me.

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Post ID: @1gwe+Xz6PHsU

I would like to point out one thing. AT&T has a notoriously bad disability (both short term and long term policy). Sedgewick is a joke and claims are routinely denied. I am willing to bet that some of these WFH with medical conditions have tried to get approved for disability but have been denied. This is a terrible immoral company to work for. Compassion for our fellow employees would be nice

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Post ID: @1uhu+Xz6PHsU

Not saying it was a or even “the” determining factor but it is amazing the amount of granularity the company is starting to extract from the Big Data organization and the way that it can be be formatted. Card swipes, Q usage, key strokes, access to company systems as far as times and for how long. Voice recognition for telephone calls. Might not be a part of this downsizing but at some point they will be able to measure productivity pretty closely. Yes you might be discussing business with the person next to you or down the hall some days but production can be measured much differently now over specific time periods.

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Post ID: @ipw+Xz6PHsU

WFH is not a guarantee. I got laid off in January with no notice I should be going to the C zone. The rest of my team were in different states...some got hit, some did not. If you are making close to above or over the salary max, you will get extra points added to your layoff score

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Post ID: @fey+Xz6PHsU

Everyone forgets we weren’t even thinking about WFH more than 2or 3 times a month before the company pushed it on us to save on real estate costs. Then they said we no longer qualified for normal cubicles based on vpn usage and gave us low walled check in spots that no one felt comfortable sitting and talking on the phone at, so everyone stayed at home even more. Don’t blame the WFH’ers for not wanting to come back and sit where they can lean over and hug the person in the next cubby! I need my normal sized cubicle back!

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Post ID: @knm+Xz6PHsU

The hard truth is that people here are turning on each other instead of turning on the executive gold bricks that screw up by running up debt on bad bets and then keep their own bonuses on the backs of regular workers. Keep siding with "leadership" company man until it is your turn to be eaten by the profit machine. This kind of thinking only helps the charlatans in the C-suite.

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Post ID: @fjx+Xz6PHsU

I have the ability to WFH but would never move so far away from my work address that it would mean an inconvenience should that change. The fact is I start earlier and work later because I have more flexibility in my day. My concern isn’t for that changing for me but what talent the company will lose by no longer offering it to prospective employees.

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Post ID: @rsl+Xz6PHsU

I have seen the COBC violation used a few times. Actually went and read through a lot of it. Never found the part about WFH. Our legal team makes mistakes but pretty sure everything about this was vetted through them.

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Post ID: @kzn+Xz6PHsU

I am not going to get into a debate if work from home is effective or not. But, I have no issue if they want to change the policy, but I do have an issue that they are not communicating it officially and just letting word-of-mouth and innuendo dictate peoples actions. That is bogus and in my opinion, if I am surplussed because of work from home, without an official policy change of my full-time status, that is a COBC violation!

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Post ID: @aba+Xz6PHsU

S---s because some have made important life choices after being allowed to work from home. However if anyone believes this company will open themselves up to the litigation of delving into the personal life situations of every work at home employee to come up with a ranking system for that privilege they are not dealing with reality.

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Post ID: @gth+Xz6PHsU

OP, just as you can’t paint all the WFHers with a broad brush as lazy and entitled, you also can’t paint them all as carrying a heavy burden.

I know WFHers on both sides -some with serious medical conditions and others who can’t be inconvenienced to come to an office.

I personally could do my job in either place and do better at home because my time wouldn’t be split with socializing. But it seems the direction is to make an appearance so I do.

The key is whether the company will delve deeply enough to know which people fall in which category.

We know they won’t. They will use that same broad brush because it’s easy. If you want to increase your chance to stay employed, come in. If you don’t, then don’t.

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Post ID: @eug+Xz6PHsU

I was a single dad with 3 full time kids under 10 in the 80's.

I would have loved to home garage. But it wasn't allowed then.

So I spent 2 hours a day going to and from the garage. My choice.

I could have quit.

Some of you WFH people need to step back and be thankful for the time you were allowed to.

I'm no fan of company policy generally. But they do make the rules.

You can comply, complain and comply or trust me, you will be looking for another job.

There may be zero reason for stopping WFH.

But they can, and seem to be, and whining about it makes one look foolish.

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Post ID: @otj+Xz6PHsU

How exactly do you separate a person in to separate parts like that?

What a cold, inhumane world view.

All just to support a greedy company maximizing profits and execs getting giant bonuses.

Shame on you.

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Post ID: @fvq+Xz6PHsU

The truth is that ATT does not hire your family, your medical issues, or other problems; it hires you.

(P.S. don't use the 'and' sign it messes up posts.)

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Post ID: @ibb+Xz6PHsU

The truth is that AT it hires you.

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Post ID: @gmi+Xz6PHsU

The cold hard truth is that AT it hires you.

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