How does the company determine you are searching for an internal job? For instance, if you are laid off due to not being near a hub or cz - how can you say you are looking internally? Do you still get 60 days till off-payroll? Or is that 3 weeks? How about in the case they tell you you can keep your job if you relocate but you aren’t interested in moving? Does that still give you 60 days to search even though we know they are not hiring outside those zones? Anyone have experience with those situations?
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I have only worked in Systems Support. I am highly skilled with decent appraisals, with a long work history in this area. Many departments should feel lucky to have someone with my background and skills apply, but they don't.
In the past, I too got a 60 day letter. It took me applying for nearly 100 jobs to get very few responses, and 3 interviews. Ultimately, I got a job, on day 60, from one of the three interviews.
What they don't tell you, is that if find a hiring manager that will make you a job offer, even if it is on your 60th day, they will make it happen. If needed, they will put you on a leave of absence while HR and management figures out the paperwork.
Bottom line, if you get a 60 day letter, nearly all supervisors will not care what you do. Nearly all will quickly transition your work away from you. Most will insist that you only look after yourself.
HR will not look for a job for you. HR will not help you location information regarding a job that you are interested in. HR has no involvement during your last 60 days, other than to move you off of their payroll, either because you found a job or you get moved into the unemployment line.
You will be identified as surplus in CareerPath. While there are some hiring managers that will look upon this favorably, most will see it as a huge negative. That is my experience.
Your 60 day letter will be treated nearly 100% of the cases, as an additional 60 days of severance.
Depending on your manager, you can use the 60 days to look for another position (both internally and externally). Once I got the official surplus letter, I was no longer expected to do my work responsibilities. I did not train anyone to do the work I did either. I was not on Q and was asked by my manager to put an out of office for email. My top priority during those 60 days was to find another job period.
Again, if you are declared surplus and elect to remain on payroll for 60 days to look internally for another position, you are identified as surplus in Career Path. HR swings this indication as a benefit to the surplussed employee so hiring managers give you top priority which is a bunch of BS. They don’t offer jobs (or let alone interview) surplussed employees. Surplus means they want you off payroll. Think about it, if you were if any value to T you would not be surplussed.
everything here that you are told has a different meaning than reality ..... 60 days is needed for the time you train your replacement, not to look for a new job.
I was laid off last Sept and I have never heard of anyone that was offered a job. I didn't even look for one since I wanted out. So I left about a month before the people who looked for a job inside the company. Good luck.
I have been looking everyday since I was notified in December. Nothing to apply for. I am not near CZ or hub so it makes sense there are no jobs (hello, that is a layoff criterion) It's all good..I am so done with Corporate America. I was overpaid for tje job i did. Scale back and find some peace. Things don't equal hapiness.
Yeah, the requirement appears to be that you need to be in the system and need to be looking. You do not have to accept any position that is below your current position, pay or requires you to relocate. I was checking the Seattle area of jobs at my level and pretty much zip.
In the packet of documents which are given to a surplus employee, there will be a documents which will describe in details the steps you must take to look for a job. If you do not take those steps you are at a risk at loosing your severance pay. These may change, so please read those steps carefully and follow them. When I was surplussed, one of the requirements was to have a valid resume and profile in the career path and it must be dome within a specified number of days. There was no specific requirements of how many jobs I was supposed to apply but I was expected to go to the career path and search for the jobs.
My advise to all: Please update your profile in the career path. Make it complete. Update your resume and make it up to date. When the surplus letter comes, there will be just way too many things to do and you may miss it.
I hope it helps
Regards
@azb I thought if you opted to stay the 60 days to "look for another job", you had to apply for something (regardless where it was located) . Is that not accurate?
Part of the surplus letter includes a process for formally leaving early. Not opting into that the assumption is you are looking internally even if you never make a single search. You are free to look for jobs that require relocation BUT! you are not obligated to accept an internal job that would require relocation. Only acception is if you get extended offer for a job within 50 miles of your current location and you decline then you forfiet your severence so be careful. Not all of T is onboard with CZ concept so you may still find something in another org.