Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

5G is it. Hans has said as much in his last web meeting. January kicks off Verizon 2.0 and "New Management Team".The only fiber being maintained is that that supports the new 5G network which will roll out 2020. After that, FIOS plant outages will be migrated to 5G. As for extremely rural areas, only those customers that can be reached by the 5G signal (almost a mile) by a cell tower will be covered. Everyone else can go elsewhere.

What you describe is ordinary 5G network. Is a meshed 5G network really in the cards? Also, is either one an age-oriented network topology as implied? I want to write this down on my handheld device with stylus.

The 5g- mesh network is the future. It will be avail in rural areas not just urban. In fact, using the 5g/ unlicensed spectrum has been used in rural areas for years to be able to bring them decent internet service when the big cable companies wouldn’t. Ten years from now, there will be NO FTTP ! It will be all wireless ! Think about it! Not having to roll a van w a highly paid technician to install the services! The customer just strolls on down to the local mall, goes to a vending machine, orders a Verizon modem and installs it themselves... it is coming... Whether the ole timers want to believe it or not!

I think @1bqg has simply took the favorite buzzwords of The Hans and The Shank and mashed them into an orgy of 5G telecommunications speak. A 5G mesh network? IoT towers? Ridiculous! (Or God so I hope.)

That's pretty funny. Most dark fiber went into the ground long before 5G was ever contemplated and is not as robust as new fiber. The last two comments show why the company is in trouble. When the senior leadership doesn't understand what they are selling or how it works, then you have a problem.

@WbIZHy2-1rnf I keep hearing that all 5G providers will be using Dark Fiber that is already laid by various companies. Does VZ or AT&T for that matter need to lay fiber?

No. Hans strongly believes in 5G mesh networks through many IoT towers through virtualized service that is provisioned in the Cloud. The future is ALL 5G, no fiber. Now THAT'S leadership!

Fiber is an essential part of 5G deployments

Regardless of the wireless technology employed, fiber will be the supporting infrastructure for 5G networks.

5G, as we are rolling with it, is not the dream ticket that you think. 5G will not replace the cable because it will only be available in dense urban areas, and who knows if being bombarded with RF from every direction is even a healthy thing. Thankfully for the shareholders wireless will continue doing its thing - for a little while at least. How long did it take Hans to wreck Ericson?

5G probably will keep it alive, don’t know where the money will come from, unless they merge with a cash cow, but that will mean more rearranging.

What will they do with their fios markets in the northeast

I agree with most of the Op's points, especially items 1,3 and 4. It is inevitable that entire network functions will be outsourced but what comes with that is a lack of quality and commitment. The outsourced manpower can be scaled up and down by Verizon as demand dictates without having to commit to any employees.

I have been here for quite some time and hope to make it through to retirement.

Anything that can be done to save money will be done without regard to quality. IT being outsourced is a given, but I expect to see large portions of onshore Service, Finance, and technical teams in other departments go that way too. Familiar tools will be replaced with cheaper alternatives, even if there's a performance loss.

We're all in for 5G. If it meets internal expectations, we thrive. If it fails, so do we.

Good luck to anyone willing to stay for what's to come.

That is a pretty interesting assessment. One could argue that the company leadership, or lack of leadership, invested in businesses that we had no competency in, yet abandoned projects midstream that are core competencies. But this gets back to what many have pointed out. Communications are a highly sought after commodity. People like to communicate and be entertained. None of the people leading this business apart from Kyle and Tammy have any real understanding of this business. Our marketing is nonmemorable or nonexistent and we are losing our leadership position in Network because the leaders abandoned it to pursue junk like Oath. Fortunately, as you point out, the company can run on its own despite the damage being inflicted by the people who think that they are 'leading' it.