Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

Take some time to think

I see a lot of pressure being put on people from both sides, those advocating accepting the offer and those advocating the opposite.

In the end, this is a personal, life altering decision for every one of us. Use the weekend to tune everything and everybody out (except for your spouse) and really think about what you want to do.

You might not make the decision just yet, but you will be closer to the one right for you after that, I'm guaranteeing you.

I know that's what I'm doing this weekend.

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Post ID: @OP+Vuc1C3m

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I have had this exact same line quoted at me time and time again these last few weeks when speaking with people in lead positions or higher. Is this mantra passed down as a Powerpoint, er, Google Slides preso? Is this the VZ Kool-Aid at work? It's simply annoying.

If you were offered the VSP you are already in a lottery to be laid off. And this lottery has amazingly good odds you'll...let's call it "win".

But sure, this is a "personal" decision, uh-huh. Since upper upper management is making the decisions and they don't know you or your work--because everyone's "Performing"!--it's damn near random chance as to whether your bid to "stay" and be seen as "loyal" and "trusting in the company" is rewarded.

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Post ID: @2dbi+Vuc1C3m

what choice is there?

As long as you get zipo if you do not take the offer, you have to take it.

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Post ID: @nng+Vuc1C3m

Hey, OP, I hate pretentious, self-important, pontifical boobs like you who state the obvious, as if we’re all needy children, and self-appoint themself to the status of the adult in the room.

But, that being said, thanks for your contribution Captain Obvious. Your service to the dimwitted is appreciated, sir. (I’m saluting right now but, as this is a written forum, I wanted you to know, my hero!)

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Post ID: @aiq+Vuc1C3m

That article absolutely nails it. There is a very small percentage of you that has it even better. You will already know if you are one of these people : if you are one of those gray-hairs that is supporting one of those 25 year old systems that consist of 65% technical debt and 35% patches, and takes 24-36 months of study before a new hire can be a net contributor, then absolutely quit because in a few months you will likely get a phone call asking if you are interested in a contract. That's when you know it's you that has them well and truly by the short and curlies. When that happens you need to hold a gun to their head. Ask for a minimum of $150 an hour, 1099, and a minimum of 6 months contract, and they can't terminate it early for any reason. Do not agree to retrain anyone else on the system. On top of the $150 an hour make sure you get enough extra to make up for your health insurance and 401K. You might think that sounds like a lot, but VZ pay more than this to dozens and dozens and dozens of useless 'executive' managers that do little more than trot out useless rah-rah-rah soundbites ("laser focused, blah blah"), attend meetings where they never make any concrete decisions, fly from city to city, eat on the company dime, and leave early to play golf. So do not be afraid. Good luck.

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Post ID: @hrc+Vuc1C3m

I also think that it is important to realize everyone’s motivations for posting on this board. Some may discourage it because they want the offer. Others may encourage others because they may want to move up in the company. So I would take advice with a grain of salt, especially from an anonymous and rumor mill like this.

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Post ID: @wca+Vuc1C3m

Im just going to leave this here

https://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/open-letter-to-44000-verizon-employees.html

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