Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

what if 5G fails to deliver?

Honest question, not a verizon employee, but have been following this thread for a few weeks. First, i'm real sorry for those going through this and hope you all bounce back quickly. Second, what if 5G fails? There is no guarantee it will surpass other forms of broadband. Cable is not going to just sit back and let that happen. From an outsider, i'm baffled at how the company is basically making the call to gut their entire business and put all the hopes in 5G. Anyway, best of luck to those impacted by this

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Post ID: @OP+VJ1rlW0

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I want 6G.

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Post ID: @5jgy+VJ1rlW0

if???

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Post ID: @4plg+VJ1rlW0

Vz, T-mobile, Sprint, ATT can NOT afford to fail to deliver 5G. It took 10 years for 4G LTE to become stable and there are still software bugs. It will take some time for 5G to ramp up as any new technology does and it will take time for vendors to figure out what customers really want from 5G, but it will happen cause 5G is the future. I won't worry so much about 5G not being delivered but how much radiation is going to pass through our bodies because of 5G. What will be the long term effects on the human body due to 100's of antenna's transmitting and receiving at high speed with constant power adjustment based on your device being near or far from the base station. Our human bodies will be constantly microwaved without us even knowing it. That's the price we will pay for faster speeds to download or watch live TV on your wireless device. Is it worth it?

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Post ID: @3ptm+VJ1rlW0

People really have their heads up their tailpipes. 5G could fail for a lot of reasons. Many of them not directly connected with Verizon. Doesn't anybody read the trade magazines, or is that just an "old person" thing? (Oh wait, Millennials are "beyond" reading, aren't they?)

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Post ID: @2ccy+VJ1rlW0

@VJ1rlW0-1bqj - yeah, FIOS was a smashing success, lol

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Post ID: @2jrh+VJ1rlW0

It will fail like everything else Verizon does that's constructive. Verizon is more concerned about DACA than the American citizens that work for the company. They screwed its management employees out of their pensions and retire medical benefits and are now trying to force out older workers.

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Post ID: @1bgw+VJ1rlW0

@VJ1rlW0-1bqj doesnt know much about telecom and even less about 5G technology. Total kool-aid drinker.

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Post ID: @1ufu+VJ1rlW0

This is literally one of THE dumbest questions I’ve ever seen posed. You have a billion dollar corporation who is developing a similar technology to its competitors with some of the smartest engineers on their payroll, and you think 5G is going to fail? Did you think FTTP and LTE were going to fail as well? Are you stuck in 1950 and pining for the days of old? It won’t fail, because if it did, every other telecommunications giant racing to build it would also fail. Sweet god, you know that phrase your teachers would tell you there is no dumb questions except those not asked? Yeah, not in your case.

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Post ID: @1bqj+VJ1rlW0

if this 5G experiment does not work and you just gutted 50,000 employees, I don't see how this can work for shareholders in the long run.

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Post ID: @1owo+VJ1rlW0

@xal, here’s some reading material that might pull you kicking and screaming into reality, The Emperor's New Clothes.

From there, draw the necessary parallels

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Post ID: @1kma+VJ1rlW0

Personally, I do not want my home to be cell service reliant. IMHO, I am happy with the dependent quality of what I have now, though the old copper had been even more reliable in times of storms but, unfortunately, that’s no longer an offering.

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Post ID: @1nqg+VJ1rlW0

“5G to the home could be great and means potentially more reliability, less installation cost and less maintenance.” - @xal

How’s an antenna outside one’s home that cannot be blocked, less it suffer a diminishing signal, provide more reliablilty than a fiber actually run into one’s home leading to a wifi antenna within that home?

“5G to the home could be great and means potentially more reliability, less installation cost and less maintenance.” - @xal

Ever see a phone pole overtaken by vines, or a tree branch growing to such an extent, that it covers and pushes everthing out of it’s way, including pole-mounted antennas?

Ever try to recieve a signal from an antenna covered in snow?

Ever consider these antennae need metered electric supplies? The great thing about the current system, no electronics in the field, just at the source, and the end user, therefore less interruption should a misshap occur between the source and the end user.

“Lately it hasn’t gone a day around my town without a fios or cable company outage with detoriating network and residents lose service a week or more.”

Pure trolling. Your premise, that a day does not go by without an outage, complete nonsense.

Further, considering that 5G is fiber fed, just as FiOS is, if what you were claiming were true, which it is not, why would a fiber fed 5G antenna stand up any better to the elements than a fiber fed FiOS service, especially considering that the antenna itself is prone to damage, as is the power source feeding it?

Also are you really going to claim that fiber fed residents, in the off chance that they do lose service which, in my experience, is rare, tgat they typically “lose service sometimes for a week or more.”?

This is a bald-faced lie, as is the rest of your post.

You strike me as a troll, or someone with an agenda, who is unwilling to let facts get in the way of that agenda, or trolling.

A fiber to your home will always be bettet than a fiber to a pole or pedestal outside your home.

It’s just common sense.

You know this.

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Post ID: @1lpl+VJ1rlW0

People will always find use for extra bandwidth. A killer app/service that uses 5G will benefit the company

As with all new technologies no one know if this will succeed

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Post ID: @1zdb+VJ1rlW0

LMBO

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Post ID: @sdu+VJ1rlW0

None of the prior technology evolutions were transformational to the way we operare. Granted, they opened new revenue streams but they did not shift us fundamentally. The way we've handled TR/NF and the buffoonery yet come will be looked down on by the market.

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Post ID: @ijc+VJ1rlW0

But the huffington post its our only hope. Oy

5G to the home could be great and means potentially more reliability, less installation cost and less maintenance. Lately it hasn’t gone a day around my town without a fios or cable company outage with the deteriorating network and residents lose service sometimes for a week or more.

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Post ID: @xal+VJ1rlW0

With the new telecom model that the big companies are utilizing (VZ, ATT, CTL, L3), VZ will become a backbone network and content provider for smaller telcos and smaller wireless providers that the big 4 will sell their local netwofks to.

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Post ID: @fag+VJ1rlW0

money fixes all problems--it wont fail

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Post ID: @pnj+VJ1rlW0

what content does verizon own thats of any value? yahoo, aol? LOL.

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Post ID: @ilx+VJ1rlW0

Who's the clown who Verizon will be a content provided tech company? Pull your head out of your a$$ Vteamer. Verizon will be nothing more than a dumb pipe for content if that.

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Post ID: @ocp+VJ1rlW0

I just don't see how this plays out very well at all in the long run. I look at IBM and how they've gone downhill over the last couple decades by doing similar stuff. Offshoring jobs and bringing in h1bs does nothing for innovation which is the backbone to future success and new products.

In order for this move to pay off, everything would have to be played out perfectly and we all know that doesn't happen all the time. I just don't see how you can get rid of that much talent and expect the company to move forward. Well, if it does fail, this certainly wouldn't be the first time a CEO has ruined a company....GE

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Post ID: @bgp+VJ1rlW0

Actually, that is a very good question and one that is quietly asked in a lot of corners of VZ. Fortunately it really almost does not matter. Like the misplaced capital in dead horses like AOL, Go90, MCI, and Yahoo, the underlying core business is a cash flow generation machine. If 5G loses the dividend won't change nor will the cash stop rolling in from Wireless and FiOS, the two best of breed products in the market. 5G, as it is being rolled out, presumes to be a replacement for cable, but 5G can really only be used in very densely populated markets. But 5G over time really will shake up the economy through the Internet of Things and AI, neither of which can really never take off without 5G speed, thoughput and and latency.

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Post ID: @nki+VJ1rlW0

5G is targeting consumers aka residential customers. VZ Biz is providing fiber to medium to large businesses, even ones in areas they previously sold off, by setting up fiber POPs in these cities. ATT, CTL and L3 all doing the same thing. Due to market saturation in consumer cellular along with very small profit margins combined with the obsolecense of landline phones and high copper maintenance costs with low bandwidth, 5G for consumer internet and phones will become the side hustle to the core business model.

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Post ID: @ygq+VJ1rlW0

Just another content medium. It will be about choice and be a good one. Verizon is positioning itself to be a huge content provided and tech company. The enterprise business will be a sideshow.

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