Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Last in first out

How is AT&T on last in first out policy?

Been here only a few months, not sure if I should worry about possibly being shown the door in one of the following rounds or not.

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Post ID: @OP+V8Xxtws

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and when you join a new boss you will probably not be rated as highly either since you are "the new guy" and the .08 percent raise turns into a .03 percent raise. in fact you were probably moved there so they could rate someone low and in the bottom quarter and protect everyone else. and pretty soon there will be a "financial exercise" where your td is instructed to remove the person that "least contributes to the group". it can be a never ending cycle until the final exit. they have a system for disposing of people here and it works quite well.

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Post ID: @5isv+V8Xxtws

and when you join a new boss you will probably not be rated as highly either since you are "the new guy" and the .08 percent raise turns into a .03 percent raise. in fact you were probably moved there so they could rate someone low and in the bottom quarter and protect everyone else. and pretty soon there will be a "financial exercise" where your td is instructed to remove the person that "least contributes to the group". it can be a never ending cycle until the final exit. they have a system for disposing of people here and it works quite well.

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Post ID: @5gyt+V8Xxtws

I was speaking with a a former boss the other day about this. What happens in the management realm is that the constant layoffs result in reorganizations. With the reorganizations, it's pretty much inevitable that at some point you will be reporting to a new Area Manager or Director that does not know you at all. You may well be the hardest working and most qualified person on your new team, but guess what happens when the next surplus comes? You're out. It's human nature, if your Boss has to sacrifice one person from his team, it's going to be you. It's just easier to do that to someone he has no history with. I have seen this scenario play out multiple times already, and I figure eventually this is how I'll get my walking papers. It is what it is. BTW that metric stuff that they supposedly base the decision on is a complete fairy tale.

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Post ID: @5rbk+V8Xxtws

I was swamped with work and only did VP escalations. I was also #1 in jobs issued so where I am the 3 that got cut had a huge workload. I'm glad I could take early retirement with a severance but feel sorry for those who aren't retirement eligible. If you are younger with a good degree you might want to think twice about staying. You might be better off at a company that is expanding ant not contracting. Just my opinion. The layoffs will not stop and it seems it is decided on how many they need to get rid of.

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Post ID: @2naf+V8Xxtws

it might be a blessing if you get cut after only a few months. just think what it feels like if you get cut after 10, 15, 20 years for no reason at all. Feel fortunate and don't waste your life at this cr@ppy company.

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Post ID: @2wet+V8Xxtws

I was surplused from t awhile back. Only hired a few years before. Had an exceeds rating on a prior review. I was involved in a high profile project and had been working very hard when I was surplused. I asked my manager why me. She provided the canned answer... combination of your skills, leadership, blah blah blah. Others in my group had less work and fewer technical qualifications. So you never know

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Post ID: @2osz+V8Xxtws

I disagree, a major factor is what can be outsourced but I suppose your perspective is a function of what part of the company you work in and what your job is.

In my part of the company the work load has doubled for many since the beginning of the year. No one around here is twiddling their thumbs.

The company is not eliminating the fat, it is cutting in to the muscle for short term book profits and big bonuses for those in the upper executive bubble.

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Post ID: @1vfo+V8Xxtws

"...those at risk suddenly get friendly with those who could go and save their jobs..."

Don't listen to the troll. Anyone who can save a job by leaving has seniority. And that same seniority gets "prime weeks of vacation".

There seems to be a cottage industry of trolls on the internet crying "fire" or otherwise playing on other people's anxieties.

The fact is, layoffs are largely determined by thumb-twiddling. If that is your job, expect to be laid off.

My group was twiddling their thumbs for more than a year before the company decide to lay off the group. It wasn't a surprise.

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Post ID: @1tbe+V8Xxtws

Core employees are laid off by seniority.

That's it.

And generally those at risk suddenly get friendly with those who could go and save their jobs.

You haven't talked to me in years, b--ch that I won't rotate weekends or give you prime weeks of vaca....but now I'm your friend?

Well....bye.

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Post ID: @myu+V8Xxtws

prem techs maybe ... not core

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Post ID: @gqs+V8Xxtws

If you are bargained for seniority does not make you safe. The last surplus they let go based on attendance and performance first and after that it went by seniority. In my garage the bottom 10 did not get touched last round.

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Post ID: @gir+V8Xxtws

If you are far below the midpoint of your salary range you might be ok as long as you are near a cz

Young and cheap

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Post ID: @rrt+V8Xxtws

Since they are probably paying you less than long time employees your chances of getting the axe before them are low.

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Post ID: @hxm+V8Xxtws

There is no "last in, first out" policy for non bargained for (management) surplus activity. That does not mean you would not be selected. Bargained for positions have to factor in seniority per the guidelines of their contracts.

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Post ID: @uvo+V8Xxtws

They will get rid of who they want to first. Needs of the business type of thing. When they are out of dirt then it will be your turn.

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