I know people are frustrated, but isn't badmouthing the company counterproductive?
I've heard several people I work with actively try to dissuade people from using AT&T when off work.
What do you gain with that? Except that you lower your own company's profits, which directly affects you in the long run.
I just don't get the logic of it.
Badmouthing our own company will never be the death of T, nor is it exactly counterproductive. It’s a sounding board of like minded people (or not) to vent, to tell all the things we’ve witnessed at work (at all job levels) that we can’t repeat, on the job, and expect to keep our jobs.
Life, or death, of T will depend on the quarterly reports, how much we’re selling vs. what everyone else is buying, the quality of the product or service we promote and the stock up or downgrades of the many brokerage services that follow us.
Almost no one in the outside world even knows these threads exist. It’s our board for our thoughts & grievances, as it should be.
I can not describe the color blue to a blind man. Well I think telling the truth about an issue would raise the company's concerns. People are afraid when losing their income and it affects their family and their whole way of life. So bad mouthing would not be how I would describe somebody's personal views and the way they feel on this critical topic.
@1gpv,, well nuts! Thanks a lot you just cost me a few more sleepless nights for being no more than completely right....don’t get invited to parties a lot, huh? :-)
AT&T = Attack terrorize and terminate !!
You guys think that the layoffs are bad now ? You better pray that there is no new capable leadership coming in. That person is going to sell off and chop jobs like its suppose to be done, a real blood letting.
and the long versions from nnw and oeg are pretty spot on as well ....
LOL why bad mouth the company? Why do you wish it to fail? OMG are you serious??? GTFOH! You either haven't been here long enough or haven't gone thru this enough! I was tagged today. I counted back as far as I could remember and lucky # 18 got me. I have watched very talented people lose their job...thier lively hood! Meanwhile the work has never stopped it has only increased! It has been picked up by those left who were then required to work morning, noon, nights and weekends for the privilege to keep thier job all with the fear you get it done or they will get you next time!. These layoffs have occured 2-3 times a year for years! Peoples lives thier families lives are put on hold waiting! I could retire if I had a dollor for everytime I had to tell my kids....sorry I can't right now daddy has to work! Meanwhile, the talented/capable employees were replaced with low cost India. They have 1 great quality.....they can type up 1 helluva ticket! They can create a ticket like no ones business!!!!! They are the best at that. Then, they pass that ticket from shift to shift to shift for days until it hits a critical stage! Then what happens you ask? The ticket hits critical stage it has been escalated after days of India ticket exchange. This is where India gos to step #2 of there problem solving flow chart that they Recieved during training ( for 95% of them this is where thier flowchart ends ) PAGE AMERICA!!!!! Blow up there q until you get a response! Play really dumb and not understand anything being asked. This leads to frustration on the US part and after 10-15 minutes of not understanding a single question asked the US will resolve the issue for you and you will be off the hook! There is nothing like that 3 am call to work page and joining the meeting room.....yourself and 15 of our friends in India who all have no clue if the are scratching thier watch or winding thier butt!!!!! You have have 1 of them type out the issue in the chat because you can not understand a word they are saying......the US will resolve thier issue usually in 15-20 minutes sometimes 1 hr. India is off the hook and can begin the ticket taking/handing off/escalation/page the US fiasco all over again!!!!!! They got me today.....over half my life with this company.....a few months shy of retirement. Congrats! I knew it would not last forever but I was sure wanting to go out on my own terms!!!!! For those left....good luck and bless you! Your going to need it. I look forward to January and seeing that 4 eyed bean counter and Donovan announcing the dividend THEY delivered at the cost of good US jobs they cut and more India hires! It will eventually blow up in there face! Someday. In closing for the ones saying why bash the company? Here is the brief list.....hurry along.....Randall and Jon Jon just whipped up some fresh/refreshing kool aid for you to swallow....try not to choke on it! My last request can someone please take Melissa Arnoldi's email account away from her.....you stated you had worked on this vision of the IT flow for 2 years and these cuts were necessary. Then in the midst of your vision becoming reality you get promoted moved to another division. Then you send out all these flowing gushing super sweet emails thanking everyone for all they have done while we are still dealing with the fallout of your vision and to keep up the good work. JUST STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!! No one believes this c-ap!!!!!!!!! We are not blind or stupid!!!!!! Maybe if this company quit sponsoring every event there is under the sun....every sporting event from the tiddlywinks world championship to the NFL......every pre, post and halftime show for all......oh oh oh oh and let's not forget the 20 million a year to put that logo on Jerry's world......and Randall and Jon Jons box seats to Cowboys and all events.....you could afford to keep theses US jobs!!!!!! But alas, destroying careers....devastating those that got you here by knowing the business....and doing the work will not get you seats to the Cowboys.....or provide that dividend to the shareholders! India will see to it this gets provided for years to come.......
and don't forget we get to sign the waiver not to sue for age discrimination after being forced out after handing off our work to off shore and younger co-workers .... like insult to injury. AT&T should be bad -mouthed, complete incompetence and greed and its best.
"Except that you lower your own company's profits ..." The trouble is that today, no amount of profit is enough. Profit was nearly $5 billion in the first quarter. How much money does AT&T need to make? Why is $5 billion profit so bad that the company has to cut jobs and spending? Right before I was laid off, I was working on a 6-year-old laptop, and was told I couldn't get a new one because it was too expensive. All management cares about is increasing profit infinitely, and if cutting jobs will help the bottom line look better, then you're outta there. And no amount of rah-rahing AT&T and talking up the company to others is going to change that.
Finally I have seen a short, spot on reply from @iez....and he/she says it quite well, read it!
We were set up to fear AT&T (our own boss) from the very day we got wind, in print no less, of an 80,000 employee cutback, a death by a thousand cuts (Surplusses) over a prolonged march to 2020.
We were told to retrain, learn and be a part of the company moving forward. But many of us, with great reviews year over year got invited out the door while we watched new jobs pop up multiple time zones away, or watching less qualifieds hang off the bosses hip.
The hardest betrayal was the $1000 (let’s call it the shiny object) they wanted to place in the pockets of those same soon to be ex T’s....how do you not get angered by this? How do you not see a cartoon figure of Randy reaching into both pockets, handing out money in one hand and a pink slip from the other?
Quarter after quarter after.....you get the idea, we are forced to watch the AT&T lottery and it takes a toll mentally and perhaps physically. And we don’t know that it will stop after 2020.
The well being of the employee, and their family are watching every move T makes.....if you surplussed the employee, you surplussed the family and it does take a toll!
Believe me when I say "AT&T does not need any help", their BAD reputation is a combinations of years taking advantage of subscribers and employees, may be in 50 years from now , once all the toxic management is gone it should improve.
The main problem of course is revenue seems to be spiraling down out of control for every area of the business.... Now enter time warner.... What's the rest of the company supposed to think their mission and purpose is???? THERE IS NONE! THAT IS THE PROBLEM. WE DON"T HAVE A UNIFIED MISSION AND PURPOSE.
They deserve to be bad mouthed more than anyone else. Especially after that pr stunt with the tax cuts while at the same time jobs are going to India and layoffs are happening everywhere inside the company. Randall needs to be accountable for the 7500 new jobs he said will happen
not only is this a garbage company to work for, but their services are worse than garbage. so anyone dissuading anyone from purchasing cruddy products is only saving those from the FRUSTRATED. also i am a former employee and my heart breaks for anyone being surpluses whether is bottom to the top level getting surplussed is the worse. technology and mobile communications is obviously changing and so does the work load and the yadddda yadddda and the blah blah blah. and you know what still s---s???? getting SURPLUSSED. all those “who are frustrated” or can’t grasp the concept that people are hurt and angry about not having a job or working for a hack job company......GTFO out of this site! taaa duh! go start blog or a thread somewhere else, use that under used waste of space T-Space to preach that the greatness of the T
Think of what at&t stands for then think of all the jibs we have sent over to India and Czech Republic then think about the tax breaks thats why people bad mouth at&t
Obviously the truth hurts. Trolls are going to be all over this, making every attempt to sugarcoat the fact that att has lost its way. Could be a great company, but won't allow with the monopolistic one tracked mind. Face it trolls, att is soooooo far behind in the times that there is now no hope of catching up with the competition. New leadership may help, but even with, it may be too late. Also, it's not simply employees that bad mouth, ask most customers and they will shed a negative light too and that is entirely the big t's fault due to lies, outsourcing and greed...basically becoming too big for their britches.
@svs & originator, you will be mocked and criticized today. I have the same issues too with folks who claim they still work with the company. I’m ok with folks talking about the illegal and unethical acts, those should be publicized. But there are others who want the company to fail. I just dont get that. All the people who will be harmed if the company fails. SMHIA.
Boy!, Management Clerks and 1st level managers new duty is to become bloggers, LOL, they must in Panic mode, reason? hard to acquire talent for sure
AGREED! thank you for stepping up..
Signed,
Frustrated