Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

My response to @tkx, five big companies and now AT&T (#6). If I’m that Fortune 500 man, I have the same worries. You’re job hopping, $$$, or you’re not valuable enough for them to want to keep you....which is it? Either way, I would have a concern!

@8mrc, you make an interesting point w/ the BLS (avg of 11 jobs) but here are the pitfalls. The BLS hasn’t written their own report since 1986, they currently rely on the National Longitude Survey. They took this survey in 1979 of young Baby Boomers (born 1957-1964, ages 14-22) documented as NLSY79. A group, across the spectrum of only 9,900 people.

By their own admission, there is “no consensus” as to what constitutes, or is counted as necessary job (career) change. Example: If a person works 2 years as a Auto Finance Mgr, and then is promoted to General Sales Mgr.....is that a career change? Do we count that as a lateral move or a one job move? NLS again, is not sure.

Too few subjects in the survey, and no clear definitions of a true job number to be counted....how many other flaws could be found with so little effort.

As for the manager, his department, his rules....

@4jsu, one post was correct, we don’t “attack” perspective employees. My group knows that a person with a 5 or 6 job résumé with large companies is a ‘journeyman’ (trying to be gender neutral) and not even a reliable consideration, that person on the board was never in our building.

Money is their only concern for jumping about, job to job, and my staff needs to be able to rely on each other....one day they would have turned to that person in a pinch, and he/she would have been off and running to job #7.

We enjoy our work, we enjoy the feeling of reliance....that someone has our back, and some else has theirs. I hope you have that. Good luck.

@4pdw, never said I “owned” the company, said “i work for a company.” Never said I didn’t “report to a mgr. or supervisor.” This is where the inference of fake news comes in. Read what I said, not what you think I was saying, and please, no resumes, new supply of darts are on backorder!

And yes, my wife does wear the pants in my house only most men don’t realize, or admit it! Most women let us think we do. Lighten up my friend, and I’m willing to bet my wife looks better in pants than yourself.

Be happy in your work

@4jsu, I don’t believe employees were being “attacked.” The resume of a prospective ‘hire’ with many past jobs and one who was not reliable enough to remain with that company was, and should be dismissed.

It seems like the atmosphere is loose and comfortable for them, whoever the company may be and the “boss” seems to have a reflective sense of humor...we could use more of that here.

PPAyAU8-4yql, your not much of a reader, are you? I know I said “I’m no lady” but you weren’t paying attention. But, if it makes you feel better, go for it! Just ease up on the thin skin Donald J.

Did I infer that women were smarter than men (on the par) ya got me there sport. I’m pretty sure my wife agrees with that sentiment!

To everyone, I work for another company and said as much (in an earlier post) every company researches the blogs, posts and the like, of every other company of consequence, and it should be no surprise that AT&T does likewise....except to 4yql of course.

That said, to PPAyAU8-4yql I have to say that women make up the greater percentage of my department (my staff) which should have given you a clue....I am the boss! And I am willing to bet they are throwing darts at YOUR resume as we speak....Be happy in your work.

I also agree with 4yql, the 3yhi post sounds angry. I am a woman and would not like to work there either, or anywhere where prospective employees (even if at times somewhat confused, we all have been at some time I would think) are attacked.

Have to agree with @PPAyAU8-4ela on this one, that ‘job jumper’ is probably single, marrieds can’t do that as security is paramount. We need to know when the next paycheck will be in the bank. Would searching for that “better job” give me that sense of adventure and independence if I was unhappy with what I do? Sure it would, but my family just might NOT share my enthusiasm!

And so I say to all of you looking for a better job, where few exist, “Be happy in your work.”

@PPAyAU8-4xed, you had me long before ‘Compassion, good for the soul,’ well said. I’m near retirement, I don’t have as much skin in the game any longer as many of you, and T has provided much of my life long income. Notice I did not say they were a fair and great company, capitalistic corps don’t work that way people, and I’m sorry, but they simply don’t!

Their job is to expand, make decisions & acquisitions (not always the right ones, as we know) and to hire and retire employees as they see fit.

“Be happy in your work” is a line from the movie Bridge on the River Qwai circa early 1960. A World War 2 Japanese commandant of a Burma prision camp would address the prisoners (Americans, British, Australian mostly) and end his speech that way. They were sent into the jungle to lay track and build a bridge to transport troops and suffered greatly from hard labor.

The irony, as said in an earlier post, is to be careful what you wish for, that it isn’t always better somewhere else! The person who jumped five other jobs to get with AT&T is testament to that.

@PPAyAU8-3itx

Because women are just as vicious if not more than men...we just like to pretend we're above that behavior when a good majority of us sadly are not.

"Be happy in your job" the point (somehow lost on you) is people want to KEEP their jobs...they are happy until some executive sociopath dehumanizes them and reduces them to a number and ends their livelihood in an effort to secure their obscenely high salaries/ bonus, feed their insatiable appetite for money/corporate greed, and appease wall street.

If companies showed some semblance of loyalty to their workers, your quixotic statement would apply...in this day and age it's sadly archaic and blind to the hardships of the American worker.

Companies don't need you to defend them, your fellow coworkers trying to figure out how to keep their home, pay for necessary medical treatments, and those feeling like there's no way out of the outsourced/layoff vortex that has become the hallmark of corporate America do.

Compassion: learn it, lived it, it's good for the soul.

@3itx & 3hub, as the saying goes ‘I’m no lady’ but I do apologize if my remark was taken out of context and misunderstood. On the contrary, I was implying (obviously not clearly) that a female job seeker would be too smart to brag about six failed job hopping adventures on this thread and seem proud in the process.

No offense was meant and you have my sincere apology.

And as I said before, ‘Be happy in your work.’

I agree with the last poster (3itx), I had the same reaction. Thank you.

@2zot,, truer words were never spoken, I am a mgr. w/ a Fortune 500 Company (browsing my way through) and his (I’m assuming a man...no woman would be stupid enough to post it) six job resume would never, and I mean NEVER, reach my desk. My staff would thumb tack it to their board and throw darts at it with a sign overhead....WE HAVE A WINNER! Believe me, not a compliment.

The market is tough out there people, once you have figured your company out, and they figure they want to keep you, stay put and to quote an old movie, “Be happy in your work.” Google, find and watch the movie, you will understand the irony.

💰💰 first and screw the customer....AT&T policy!!

@PPAyAU8-tkx, you said “I am going to leave this company as soon as I figure it out.” Allow me some latitude, if you would, cause I have a few things figured out.

By your count, AT&T is now the 6th large company you have worked for (and that number may be higher) and I can’t help but wonder that:

A) You got all those companies figured out in record time, making a moral decision, and left.

B) They figured ‘YOU’ out, in record time, and showed you the door!

C) How could you be with any of those companies long enough to know anything at all, ethically or otherwise?

And as a final thought, do you feel embarrassed that a potential boss is looking at your resume and thinking, ‘Hmm, can’t this person hold a job? What’s wrong here?”

The rest of us are not impressed by your “who’s who” credentials, just empty talk....figure that one out!

I hate the way this company treats it's customers. I am going to leave this company as soon as I can figure it out. I have worked for other large companies. Harris Corporation, Alcoa Standard, Dow Jones, Pepsi and Anheuser-Busch. This is the worst compa I have never seen anything like it.ny I have ever worked for. No ethics.

The Customer First is just an empty slogan designed to trick people in to thinking Randy and his ilk care.