Thread regarding Follett layoffs

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The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services agency issued a memorandum that makes it harder for companies to bring foreign technology workers to the U.S. using the H-1B visa process.

The new guidelines, issued late Friday, require additional information for computer programmers applying for the work visa to prove the jobs are complicated and require more advanced knowledge and experience. The new policy is effective immediately, so it will change how companies apply for the visas in an annual lottery process that begins Monday.

Raise those starting H1b starting salaries to 100k.

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It's not going to cause a significant uptick in outsourcing across the industry as a whole. The industry already tried this in the late 90s and early 2000s. It was a disaster for a number of reasons. First, the quality of the software being built was terrible and caused way more to repair than it saved them using outsourcing. Secondly, it was nearly impossible to manage a development team when there is a 12 hour time difference between you and your dev team. It proved too much of a hassle and the product was not as good.

The industry tried this already, it didn't work out. They likely aren't going to go back, even with the H1B changes.

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In any case, this does nothing to prevent off shoring, a greater threat to US tech jobs.

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Post ID: @3qtz+MDf4puI

How do you raise the H1Bs to a 100K minimum salary when the H1Bs aren't exclusively for any one job role or industry. It also wouldn't help for jobs that pay more than 100K.

Even if you say only software developer H1Bs are at that level, they'll just hire them for some other role and have them programming anyway. They're already abusing the program as is, after all.

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Post ID: @3mhs+MDf4puI

If the salary for H1B visa's are raised to 100k or more, companies like Follett will not use them as a cheap replacement for existing employees. And it would be more beneficial for those with H1b's to get paid a fair days pay at market rates, not the low ball rates. A win win for everyone except for the abusing companies like Follett, Infosys etc

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Post ID: @2hsk+MDf4puI

And at follett, what follett thinks is the only thing that matters. You made my point well.

Also, you're right. Someone fresh out of college can't do what you can do. You're worth more. In any right thinking company, you don't even have to say that out loud. Again, this is follett.

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Post ID: @2qcl+MDf4puI

This isn't fixing anything, because none of these consultants are entry level programmers. Although, someone should report Follett under the abuse email address. With enough complaints they will investigate Infosys or whatever consultant.

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If you think a programmer coming out of college can even come close to what a programmer with 5-20 years of experience can do, you're dead wrong.

Maybe Follett thinks that way, and if they do, they're in for a really rough surprise.

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quantify that.

don45 isn't/won't work to protect your job (or anyone's job) you have to do that. If management thinks you're overpaid they'll find someone in Illinois to do your job for less. Ever pass by a college or university? They're full of people who will do your job for less. management has already shown they don't care if they have to grow into the job (hence the outsourcing and Hib workers).

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