Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

@J3NrGwg-5nre

Well stated!

And this from a former manager whose pension benefits were raped by the company because they failed to adequately manage the pension assets and underfunded NYNEX's pension.

A manager's retiree health care 'benefit' costs $30,000 per year. Not much of a benefit.

This is why so many managers with any serious time in service backed the union during the strike and still do. The company had hoped to screw them just like they screwed all of the managers.

some people are envious, of the union and our victory. riffs, no pension and cant move you at the whim of some executive, all protections we have against said company. they simply dont like that we have it! do i agree with everything union does? Heck no! but i am still a member, will be a member to the end. 3rd generation union man here and proud of it! Last, best and final.........funny!

Union is weak? Doesn't make sense to be in a Union? Where have you been fool? the Union just shoved Verizon's Last, Best and final offer right up there you know what. Again Last---Best---Final. i don"t see how they could have made it any clearer. The Union said No and Won.

You see it's loser's like you that just post non-sense to get people going, but you post takes the cake for idiocy. Here's one Verizon to open first wireless store on Mars...How's that?

I agree with the OP. The reason you are in the position you are in is because your Union is weak, they are In It for themselves not for the workers just like Verizon looks out for themselves. It doesn't make any sense to be in the union and pay union dues and not Get the same benefits as the others, it really makes no sense but unions are a dying breed and it is because of the unions greed.

@J3NrGwg-2cmf and you're incredibly judgmental. i guess we all have our faults.

Let me get this straight....You weren't hired before the other people, so your complaining about their compensation? They were hired before you, that's it. and probably by different people. You should be thankful you have a job, and you were even hired at all. Look at all the money you made since you were hired, and all the things you bought since then. Have you used your medical benefits? How's your 401K looking matched dollar for dollar. Ask yourself would you be in the position in life you are now without your job at Verizon? Answer that question honestly. You sound like the definition spoiled brat.

You receive very good pay. VERY GOOD. And you have benefits partially paid for. That alone is good.

That being said. If the union gets stronger by collecting more wireless workers, they will be in a position to strengthen post 2003 workers' contracts. You won't ever get a pension, but other issues may be addressed.

Whaaaa i hate my job that pays me really well with some of the best benefits in the country...Whaaaaa. My Union didn't change my diaper today Whaaaaa. Man you really don't know how well you have it right now. If your smart, just keep crying for your diaper change and bottle, but whatever you do don't take everyone's advice and quit.

signed, Smart guy.

There are a million Indians waiting to steal your job as soon as they can get an H1B to come over and work in the CO. Not every job can come to them.

The union and Verizon sleep in the same bed, period. I love the guy who stated that Verizon can no longer afford to pay you like the guy that sits across from you. Are you fu(king kidding me? This company keeps burning through billions on nonsense, yet you're still drinking Lowell's Kool-Aid. As for the comment that there are a million people that would gladly take the job.....Well, where are they? Anyone who has actually worked in a call center and experienced the stress, harassment and favoritism that goes on, knows that it is without a doubt one of the most difficult jobs out there. In our building alone, over the past 15 years, I've seen a thousand people come and go, either because they we're unjustly fired or because they could no longer take the harassment. What's the unions response to all of this? File a grievance. F U Verizon and F U union. Both of you are criminal organizations as far as I'm concerned.

OP says...."I was cheated a summer because our unions worked out a plan to have us back to work the day we become eligible for unemployment! What a joke."

I lost all, and complete respect at that point, not that any of it made sense. This guy is completely delusional, and very ungrateful. In fact he doesn't even want to work , This cry baby wants it all handed to him. The "jokes" on you moron, you sound like a fool. I have one word of advice for you, and i hope you take it.....QUIT.

@J3NrGwg-1fjf is one of those lowmacturds that seem to get encrusted.

Please leave.....Go find another job that pays you what Verizon pays you, with the benefits Verizon gives you, and your family. Leave tomorrow. You are so ungrateful you don't even deserve this job. Also do you really think Verizon wants to pay you what they're paying you with the benefits if the Union didn't fight for that. Without the Union you wouldn't even be here you brat.

Quit today then you spoiled rotten cry baby! I hope Verizon hires someone a lot better than you.

Get a degree on the companies dime. If I wasn't projected that would by priority one.

To the original poster, I suspect you are in the CSSC. I understand your point of view, but take a look at what the company wanted to take away, then what you have. For me I had a plan B and worked the days I did not work the picket line. The post 2003 folks still have protections in my eyes being if they just lay us off they would be committing public relations suiside. Wish you the best and I too hope for a Special EISP and hope they include the CSSC being that is the group I am in. The sooner the better. I am hoping with all the hiring of new people at starting rate and reduced vacations they will offer one to the CSSC in October which is a rumor I am hearing.

The expected response from likely a pre 2003 "union brother." But if the shoe was on the other foot, his tune would change. What the pre 2003 ppl need to remember is these post-2003 "coworkers" will be the ones likely bargaining when the pre 2003 folks are the retirees(in the very unlikely scenario that the union still exists at that point!).

There is literally a million people that will take your problem away from you if your that unhappy. I understand your frustration that your co-worker is not on an equal footing as you, but times are changing, and so is the job. The people that were here before you, Verizon just can't afford anymore.

You have a great job with excellent benefits, and excellent pay. Stop looking across the table at someone else plate, and complaining that their pile of food is higher than yours. There are people with no food at all.

You are very replaceable at that table by the way.