By 2020, one worker in fifty will be 55 or older. Not a welcoming workplace for older workers, in a work environment that does not fosters collaboration and teamwork, while allowing personal flexibility, will help us attract new college workers, and retain less experienced ones, will be the plan
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Ok so I found this site when someone from the US mentioned ATT was doing layoff' in the US.
We are building our workforce and never were told it was outplacing US workers. Yes we do make less and have limited medical but conditions here are different. We have opportunities to work in the US for training and once we are proficient we move back. We then work with centers we were told would remain. We find this not to be true.
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It is not older people that are the problem, it is the fact that leadership is full of incompetent managers who might happen to be older. I work with a lot of 40+ people who are extremely good at what they do and give all they can. The problem is not age but culture which is full of incompetence and midrocracy as my ex AVP used to tell me.
I'm a millennial who was laid off by AT&T because I was hired to code and kept begging to code while my older manager only wanted us to do data entry. The old people at AT&T are the problem because they only want to do things the old ways.
We had layoffs in my org and all the younger crowd is looking for is a google type room for relaxing time in the garage.
the fools don't even realize what they are asking for and when someone looses their job they think it must have been poor performance. I'm 29 and see a big problem coming and as stated on other posts it definitely is time to start looking for a pace where people like their jobs and actually work.
the only people who did help me on problems are the older workers. Going to one of my generation is useless for the most part. working in a tech support group is technically challenging and could be great if some of the lazy ones would learn and actually work. signing off trouble as "no trouble found" is not going to keep people here.
Could not have said it better. I see the same thing and the company is clueless on direction. I'm in NP&E and we have people who don't know anything about the network and how it works. I'm 28 and think it may be time to look around. I don't need a google type play scape to work but some do.
Reality is the millennials are in most places lazy and want to be handed everything and when they don't get it, it has to be the older workers who are at fault. I'm a 31 year old and see my generation as a big problem for any company that relies on innovation and desire to grow in the direction the world is going. I have asked my peers to step up and get involved in many projects only to be told they are too busy to add to their workload. when I suggest the 2 hour lunch and multiple breaks are not good they tell me If the boss does not see them then they don't care. some sit on the phone with a headset on and are really playing on the internet or surfing. If the boss comes in they switch to a XL sheet.
We even have a few fools playing Pokémon Go at work walking around the city.
As for the talent, forget it. most don't have a clue. HR hired then because they have a degree in some useless field.
The older workers can at least retire or move to a company where their knowledge is needed. ATT will outsource just about every department and look for the bucks to roll in. why do you think they are moving to an all wireless company with support overseas? two guesses, no medical, no 401k and less salary numbers.
I'm a youngish late 30s employee and I don't want any one age group to go. What I want is the culture to shift. A culture that I see millenials and boomers have signed up for hook line and sinker. The sick one that plays us against each other. The sicker one that doesn't encourage intellectual disruption and anti group think. The one that keeps us from real innovation. That is the problem. It's the one that can't create systems to keep drug dealers from cramming chargers without Att's "knowledge".
We have a mindset problem one in my estimation has nothing to do with age.
Give everyone over 50 full pension and medical. This should open a lot of opportunity for the younger workforce. WE want to leave as much as you want us to go, but there are a few details that need to be worked out. Give us the pension you screwed us out of, continue medical benefits and watch the doors swing wide open.
Coding is great if your a programmer, what about accounting, Real Estate, HR, are they coders also, or do they need to hit the bricks with the rest of the old workers and non coders.
Have you noticed anything about AT&T Tech Dev/IT, all outsourced. May not be room for US based coders either. This will be a shell company soon, just a brand. Selling wireline, and outsourcing everything else. Workforce 20/20 means no workers and no wireline. My guess is the final blow is a total screw on pensions
I am an older employee and realize the company does not want me any more. EOS
She sounds like Many managers I know, years into their roles, clueless about their roles and responsibilities, cushy jobs are a cultural problem at this company, AT&T area managers serves as a kind of non-existential reassurance to teams spread across the planet, a hedge against emptiness,.
To my area manager, if you are so busy, with projects-completely booked, and no support, demand every hour of the day, and not time for lidership, that is what they tell us, if your job wasn’t performed by a cat or a boa constrictor, I’m not sure I believe it’s necessary. I can’t help but wonder whether all this comany initiatives, gives me exhaustion!, isn’t a way of covering up the fact that most of what we do is irrelevant at the end
Interesting. There is a need for diversity of age, talent, and skills. I love how one becomes a "dinosaur" after 40! Seriously, kids, can't we all just get along?
Yes age is diversity. Guess Bezos, Elon Musk, Tim at Apple etc ( all examples of the "older" tech leader in 2020) - they'll all be exterminated too? Att's problem isn't the 55+, however they'd have you believe that surplus is occurring because their attrition numbers didn't pan out like they wanted. I'm not buying it. The 55+ is not the issue ATT can't innovate and it's because of culture not talent.
All this talk of millenials don't do this or that. Sounds like the dinasaurs are getting concerned about their own future. HTML Java (no not your coffee) MySQL C++ plus others are foreign to them. I work in Bell Labs and coding is very much a part of the future in AT&T. Sure someone will need to be there to install the initial hardware and maintain it but not nearly the workforce we have now. There are some amazing things you'll be seeing between now and 2020 in the way of automation.
What's up with the Dinosaur bashing. Don't be a hater. Son when I was young.........
Love this post - I find it humorous. Are you saying that we need to turn it over to the college grads? Maybe I should sell my AT&T stock right now? Sure, let's do that - give everyone over 55 their walking papers - let everyone code (that's what the younger generations think is the most important - code)....should be interesting.
1 in 5, not 50
Isn't age part of diversity, hmmm, another blind spot for the millennial. Give pension and medical and see how much opportunity ther will be for millenials. No one would know how to turn the lights on
Can't fin qualified workers in US?.. nine out of ten new hires will come from Sourcing of the talent may likely come from outside the U.S.