Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

This Will Not Be Over Any Time Soon, Union In No Hurry, With Unemployment Kicking In. Company On The Ropes, And Union Knows It.

The Union is in no hurry to end this without the deal they want now, and the company knows this, The company is now trying to get out of these negotiations with there shirts still on. Something has changed, and what has changed, is the company's Work Stoppage Plans have been an absolute bust. Everyone knows this from management, to the Union leaders, to the executives. Even Wall Street this week has been made aware of it.

The Union leaders know now, that the leverage is on their side, with unemployment kicking in, and combined with the relief fund, the members can survive for months even longer, But the company knows it can not survive another week with the replacement work force. The news of poor productivity, No installations No new customers, and loosing of the existing ones in the thousands, has hit Wall Street.

Combine all that with the bad publicity of the the replacement work force, the overwhelming support of the striking workers by the public. The support of nearly all the politicians in America. The campaign of the Unions to shed light on the level of Verizon's corporate Greed, Outsourcing, and sending American jobs abroad, while profiting Billions, and the insane executive pay, with bonuses on top Then shameless audacity of demanding concessions from their workforce . All has made Verizon the Villain.

Lowell McAdam, and the Verizon Leadership, has miscalculated this Strike, They miscalculated the resolve of not just Verizon's Union workforce, but of the American People. It has been a complete, and utter disaster on all fronts for Verizon. The Union see's this. Verizon Leadership has handed the Union the Victory with it own incompetence. It's only a matter of time at this point. It may take some time, but the Union now has that Time.

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Post ID: @OP+HvggEGk

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They sold those states because your CEO is a Moron, and paid 130 billion to Vodaphone in a wireless market that is saturated. 130 Billion!!! what an A$$

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Post ID: @1jge+HvggEGk

I can't believe these unions think they are in a good position. The more days go by the better position the company has. Wireless is the big dog funding the company not wireline. Why do you think they sold California, Texas and Florida?

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Post ID: @1yhp+HvggEGk

I am EWA in a call center. Customers are happy to speak to caring employees fixing their problems, that occurred prior to the strike. We are now only working 5 days a week due to 5 new USA call centers being installed.

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Post ID: @1hjc+HvggEGk

Wall Street will not let this Strike prolong. The Government will not let this Strike prolong. CFO Fran Shammo told investors this strike is coming to an end and that they are losing customers and it will effect the company profits. It's too bad because the Union is absolutely destroying the Company in this fight. The Company can train 1 Million knuckleheads to do this job NONE is going to get it done in time for the Almighty Wall Street.

Stop dreaming Company shills about a company without the Union it will never happen. and this Strike just proved that without a doubt. You can't do it with out the Union workforce period. Keep trying though it's entertaining. and we are losing customers in the thousands... Wall Street are you listening

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Post ID: @1cxh+HvggEGk

Union employees, please wake up. You are the phone company workers. That is a dying business. You tried to stay relevant with fios. That is starting to become irrevlant. This is not Ma Bell times anymore. Verizon has employees all over the country and globe, and only 20% are Union. Verizon is not isolated in the Northeast. Union is not working on the backbone network or the wireless network outside of VZ footprint, which is now 8 or 9 states. Verizon is making more acquisitions (XO) to build that network for our broadband and wireless networks with no Union involvement. I am in the Midwest, and no one outside of VZ employees knows you are on strike. The only news other than Union leading publications that no one reads, is from Local northeast tv stations, and a few national articles not really pushing your case. Contractors have already replaced one call center, and thousands more in the pipeline. Non Union people are coming back to their own job, and hours are being relaxed. Wake up. You are being replaced. Join the 21st century. If you act now, maybe you can save your job.

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Post ID: @1nys+HvggEGk

You stupid picket monkeys don't even know the water is up to your waist, and is rising fast. You'll go down with your union leaderships dinghy because you're too ignorant to think for yourselves and save your careers. If you had any common sense, you'd flip off Sheldon and his gang and cross over. F-them, why don't you think about your kids for a change and go back to work?

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Post ID: @1dio+HvggEGk

So true. The support from the public is absolutely overwhelming. Hardly a negative comment in almost 6 weeks. Seems that management it to busy scratching their heads, counting their money and sleeping after actually working to see what's really happening.

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Post ID: @1ctv+HvggEGk

CFO Fran Shammo pointed out that the lack of new installations of the Verizon FiOS service is likely to bring down the company’s revenues. This will result in increased churn rate amid loss of cable TV or broadband customers during the quarter.

Verizon is taking a beating that's only going to get worse as the Strike continues. I heard it said here before. If this were a boxing match, the referee would stop it.

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Post ID: @oeq+HvggEGk

Here's the realty of a CWA union run call center where I work. He old timers do very little and if asked to do something outside their comfort zone they scream from their union rep. Actually had one woman threatened to shoot a manager. And was she fired no. She was counseled. Because. Because she had never been written up for that offense before. The center has roughly 25 reps and could have easily ran with 8-10 reps. Union fat. And everyone knows it. Just another reason unions are on the decline. Good riddance.

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Post ID: @bbp+HvggEGk

@oxe..Union did not agree to mediation. There is a mediator present for both sides if needed. Big difference.

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Post ID: @ikw+HvggEGk

Ricochet. Plain and simple.

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Post ID: @hlq+HvggEGk

Verizon paying a pretty penny (125k per week) to one small town in Ma for police details. That must be adding up quickly across there footprint.

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Post ID: @ltv+HvggEGk

If verizon isn't hurting why are there banks in NYC that have signs up saying due to the strike this branch is closed. Businesses are suffering and some losing many customers. You pole smokers can't do what we do effectively. Even union scum can figure that out.

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Post ID: @byn+HvggEGk

Back to the fishbowl, I see. Unions were once great, but their glory days have devolved into mindless expectation. The truth is everyone is expendable in today's job market, union or not. Stop living in the past and start trying to accept the future while planning and saving.

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Post ID: @mrk+HvggEGk

The fact that you don't realize that your union agreeing to arbitration means they already made major concessions actually works in the unions favor because it will be so easy to spin it as a win to the obviously not very bright workforce.....all the political money you have given to democrats, and Obama hosed you on the Cadillac tax. Thats actually comical. Shows you how much they appreciated it.

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Post ID: @oxe+HvggEGk

The company is not on the ropes ..... Wireline is on the ropes. Wireline can be driven to the ground and the company will likely care less. They will put tape around the fiber transport and put it under wireless or create a spinoff for the transport side.

Wireline cable and switching they will let sink, sell or spin off.

The sooner everyone realized this the better.

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Post ID: @kty+HvggEGk

I've talked to people that have cancelled there service because of strike and have also over heard strangers talkng about it, many of them relate because they were outsourced or let go because they made good money and benefits and some young guy came in and would work without those perks. Americans are starting to see the light and the support has suprised me, its not from the local politician looking for a vote but from the community. The strike is turning into a movement and corporate doesn't like it, Lowell tried busting the union but ironically he has made it stronger. Thanks Lowell and Marc!

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Post ID: @jak+HvggEGk

You are the one's that need the life raft's, with all your unwarranted rif's. Verizon just picks you guys off with no justification, and no consequences. Not if your Union.

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Post ID: @bvd+HvggEGk

Jbl, I think the union has jumped the shark! You might need to pool resources for a bigger boat if y'all are going to stay afloat.

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Post ID: @odu+HvggEGk

OP Hits it right on the button. Something has changed since April 13, The company had a plan, and it's failing miserably. Now the biggest factor in this Strike is that Wall Street knows this, and will not tolerate it much longer. Lowell and the boy's will have to tuck their tails between their legs, and listen to Daddy Wall Street tell them to put their ego's away, and except defeat. End of story.

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Post ID: @elq+HvggEGk

Yes that's the best I've got....Now Jump, and is that EWA post the best you got? oh boy

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Post ID: @jbl+HvggEGk

The OP is smoking crack, I'm an EWA and my customers tell me that i'm so much better at this easy job than the union slugs that they had, they are begging me to stay and telling me they hope the strike never ends.because im so much better. my local manager love me too, he's begging me to stay. I do 3 triple plays a day and 5 repair jobs. that's something the union fat lazy slobs can never do! Im making so much money right now that i cant even count it. So please stay out. Im buying a porsche 911 and taking a trip to Hawaii just this months money..Stay out! I took you jerb!

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Post ID: @oze+HvggEGk

That the best you've got? Jump off a building?! Lay off the fish food, your tank is cloudy. LOL

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Post ID: @rhw+HvggEGk

@zmh Two words: Tall Building...might want to consider jumping off one, to gain a more realistic perspective of your future in Verizon.

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Post ID: @yis+HvggEGk

OZT what law books have you been reading? Your statement is completely false

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Post ID: @dpn+HvggEGk

OP, two words: myopic fishbowl. It's time to consider jumping into something a little larger to gain a more realistic perspective. Just sayin'.

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Post ID: @zmh+HvggEGk

@ozt

Made in the U.S.A. is hot again, and the number of manufacturing jobs that are returning to the U.S. — or coming to the U.S. for the first time — from overseas has hit a record level.

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Post ID: @yvz+HvggEGk

from 2 scabs this board is a sh-- show

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Post ID: @xgk+HvggEGk

Over 200 major american corporations, including Verizon's competitors outsource in other countries. Why is Verizon the bad guy for doing what everyone else does. Next your going to tell me that you don't shop on Amazon, use credit cards, go to best buy, fly on airlines, and own a car because they outsource in other countries.....Last time I checked it was against the law to collect unemployment while your actively striking in most states. Thank god! What a precedent that would set. Let's not take a healthy fund and turn it into the pension.

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Post ID: @ozt+HvggEGk

Stock down 3% since Strike started, and sliding. Now tell me that doesn't matter? Keep fooling yourselves if you want, but Verizon is losing this Strike. So if it's Lowell's long term plan to keep losing customers. That doesn't sound like a very good plan to any company.

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Post ID: @cqk+HvggEGk

There is NO reason to treat employees this way. I'm a business owner and the better I am to them the more productive they are for me. In my business we value our employees and in return they work hard and we compensate them well. Just like the expression, one hand washes the other.

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Post ID: @dpz+HvggEGk

The EWA's are not doing the job, So stop with the post's that they are. The Strike has been a complete failure in the customer service department that is for sure. It's does Verizon care

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Post ID: @nex+HvggEGk

Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam is baffled. Recently, he walked up to a picket line and told striking workers, “This makes no sense to anybody. To be honest, I’m not sure why you’re out here.”

That was in an article 2 days ago. Your leader...Is he a liar? or is he Clueless? You tell me?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/betsy-derr/can-you-hear-me-now-verizon_b_10045626.html

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Post ID: @ufw+HvggEGk

IBEW2222 is not receiving unemployment or pay into a strike fund.. Unemployment is very unlikely in the near future we have a Republican Governor..

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Post ID: @zck+HvggEGk

Well thats one way to spin it. Another way would be to say 40k people were replaced with 1/4 of that amount to keep the wheels rolling. Loss in the market is expected and collateral damage that is expected. Contingency plans have have been enacted and worker counts and proficiencies continue to improve with maybe 35% of the same amount of people. Workforce is being built up daily with new contractors that will require some ramp up time but will be running soon enough. EWA though not in their full time jobs are doing fine most are new to the position they are in.

Your point of view is overly optimistic about the demise of the company that employs you.

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Post ID: @eik+HvggEGk

The replacement workers are increasing in number to the point that I have several EWA friends who are scheduled to head back in a month. Additionally VZ is no longer pushing long hours on people retained at their own job.

All signs point to VZ being extremely comfortable with the current situation.

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Post ID: @zur+HvggEGk

I believe a lot of these reply's are Wishful Thinking....OP stated Fact's reply's have not been.

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Post ID: @fld+HvggEGk

Hahahahahahahahahaha. Funniest post I've seen all week EGK. Thanks for the laugh. Time is definitely advantage to Vz. Anyone that thinks different is kidding themselves. The more money that's spent and better trained replacements are, the easier it gets to stay on the path of replacement.

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Post ID: @jdx+HvggEGk

No one's about to cave. Company is making plans to take this thing out to the end of the year if needed. Pretty crazy that both sides are dug in hard, but the strike and EWA are the new normal for the next few months it seems. Sucks for the customers more than anyone.

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Post ID: @mco+HvggEGk

Crappy service due to union workers.

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Post ID: @gbh+HvggEGk

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