Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

Union Not Budging....Union Is Not Giving Back....Union Now On Offense Making Demands!

It seems the Union may feel, it has the upper hand in these negotiations. The Union will not budge one inch on any givebacks, and now is actually making demands. Yesterdays negotiations were an exchange of both sides critical issues. The company had returned today with some concessions off their demands which made the case for them moving off their last, and best offer. They felt they had done their part. The Union flat out rejected the offer, and returned with an essentially not one iota of give backs this contract rebuttal.

The Union now feels they have the leverage in these negotiations based on the company's Work Stoppage contingency plans, which they believe have proven to be a failure. It is well known on both sides that the work is not being preformed to any level of productivity, and Verizon is not only losing customers but also any public support for this Strike.

The Union in today's round of negotiations has now actually requested items, and has given proposals that they want. This strategy looks to be the Union is going on the offense. The Union is capitalizing on the recent bad publicity of replacement workers, and actual numbers of losing customers, which has been rumored to be in the hundreds of thousands. That number not only including installations not being preformed, but customers leaving due to poor service.

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Post ID: @OP+Hss4hZW

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I can see the Union asking now. Verizon is losing in this strike.

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Post ID: @1gdb+Hss4hZW

@kny Sure looks that way....More prepared than the Company, and given the results so far...absolutely destroying them.

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Post ID: @1lnm+Hss4hZW

The union was prepared? LMAO Sure, anything you say.

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Post ID: @1kny+Hss4hZW

It stands to reason the Union was prepared for this Strike, The company over estimated the EWA performance, or the actual difficultly of the job. Any EWA will tell you that. and any mobile picketer will tell you that. They are are seeing it daily with there own eyes , so stop disputing it.

Now that said, The Union negotiators knows this. They know their members sacrificed alot in this Work stoppage. They will not come back with a disappointing contract, I assure you. They have the upper hand now as hard as it is to believe to some, but the strike numbers are in and it's a knockout for the Union.

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Post ID: @1onf+Hss4hZW

@jkp... Forbes article... hmmm... goes against all the propgAnda you have been fed. Kinda brings up the fear don't it?

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Post ID: @1gdi+Hss4hZW

I wonder what Lowell is drinking reading all this.

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Post ID: @1ynt+Hss4hZW

We're not giving back a penny. Sorry anti-union trolls but big business is taking a huge strike to the chin and Steve Forbes won't be able to help with his little propaganda piece.

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Post ID: @1jkp+Hss4hZW

OP, it isn't possible for your post to be any more wrong than it is. I'll leave it at that.

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Post ID: @1nlj+Hss4hZW

Replacements trained in a "week" The EWA's have been here over a month actually doing the job after 2 weeks training, and they still cant find their butts with both hands.

Please stop with your B.S. post's on how the Union can be replaced. Wall Street is not waiting years for this operation to be up to speed i can tell you that. and it would take years to properly replace 40,000 experienced work force.

Please Stop and speak sensibly if you can.

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Post ID: @1bye+Hss4hZW

Please don't but, I assume that you will all come back with your tails tucked claiming victory on Monday.

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Post ID: @1xmq+Hss4hZW

so basically you are quitting your jobs. You can and will be replaced, easily and quickly . Your replacements are finishing up training this week.You people are insane to not accept the offer you were presented. You will NEVER get what you had before and you will certainly never get more then you had before.

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Post ID: @1tff+Hss4hZW

If this Strike were a Boxing match, the referee would have stopped it. That's how much of a beating Verizon is taking in this. No one can deny that fact.

So I can see the Union now wanting. It makes sense giving what we are seeing with our own eyes. The company is being pummeled.

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Post ID: @1jnj+Hss4hZW

Nothing but speculation. No real info here.

5/20 is not an 'off payroll' date, it is simply an incentive date for the union to sign before some incentives are dropped. Verizon cannot lock them out without giving the union the upper hand. I think Verizon is positively going through the motions at these non binding and off the record meetings.

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Post ID: @1lox+Hss4hZW

Fess up. Who went back in time and stepped on the butterfly?

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Post ID: @1oep+Hss4hZW

I'm confused. If there is a gag order in place how are you getting all of this information? Just wondering.

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Post ID: @1xpm+Hss4hZW

There isn't any negotiating going on...c'mon.

This is not about the Union or VZ. This is about the issue getting too close to the administration and congress. As the mud throwing approaches critical mass, Obama, Perez and team absolutely does not want any figures of payola presented to the public. That includes lobbyists, special interest, spectrum licensing fees in the billions over the years, etc. The gov does not want to be exposed in this way as it presents itself as big corp paying off the government.. This is why they brought these two imbeciles in. The plan is to pay them off, shut them up, and get everything back to nooorrrrmall. Let the spinning begin as to who won what next week...Believe what you want.

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Post ID: @1qrh+Hss4hZW

@rgj Replacement workers outperforming? and Verizon gaining market share since strike began? You sir are truly delusional.

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Post ID: @1hme+Hss4hZW

Lowell doesn't want the union.

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Post ID: @1wnt+Hss4hZW

@rgj......sooooo, who broke the gag order????

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Post ID: @1kck+Hss4hZW

All the Union ever does is make demands during negotiations, it's kind of how it goes with all contract negotiations

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Post ID: @1nqr+Hss4hZW

Log off, you're drunk on union Kool-Aid.

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Post ID: @1jwz+Hss4hZW

It seems the company may feel, it has the upper hand in these negotiations. The Company will not budge one inch on any of its fair bargaining proposals thus far, and now is actually removing some previous concessions from earlier proposals. Yesterday's negotiations were an exchange of both sides critical issues. The union had returned today with some concessions off their earlier demands and made the case to sign a letter to "not walk out" while negotiations on tinge. They felt they had done their part. The Company flat out rejected the offer, and returned with essentially not one iota of concessions of this contract rebuttal.

The Company now feels they have the leverage in these negotiations based on the Union's Strike plans, which they believe have proven to be one failure after another. It is well known on both sides that the work is being preformed at a high level of productivity, and Verizon has actually gained market share since this strike started over a month ago.

The Company in today's round of negotiations has stood firm on their LBFO and has given the final off payroll date of 5/20/16 unless their proposals are accepted by the Union. This strategy looks to be that the Company is keeping the high ground. The Company is capitalizing on the recent bad publicity of striking workers, and the vandalism caused by some. Many have crossed the picket lines to come ack to work and the actual numbers of those that have returned to work is staggering. That number is not only including call center employees in right to work states, but several hundred Field techs in previous strongholds such as NY & NE. Lack of the public and political support for the Unions during this time has been unparalleled.

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Post ID: @1rgj+Hss4hZW

It does make sense, I have heard that the Union will not make the same mistake they made in 2011 and the company is just getting killed in this strike.

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Post ID: @xlx+Hss4hZW

(°.o)/

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Post ID: @bjr+Hss4hZW

This poster is delusional

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Post ID: @wzf+Hss4hZW

Post minutes or it never happened.

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Post ID: @iuf+Hss4hZW

I have heard the Union was to make demands.

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Post ID: @pxo+Hss4hZW

Hot off the press from the Ministry of Misinformation spokesperson after you removed his gag?

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Post ID: @prg+Hss4hZW

If this is it all true, in the union is continuing to do exactly what the company wants. You must realize by now that the company does not want the union back. They don't care about the poor work being done. They will pay any price to rid themselves of the millstone around their neck which is the CWA.

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Post ID: @vpj+Hss4hZW

Perception is reality

Scabs go home already!!!

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Post ID: @dgv+Hss4hZW

Cool story bro. But unless you are sitting in the meetings , there is no way to know what is going on.

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Post ID: @qrw+Hss4hZW

Sure, because you were there in room. There is a gag order and you have no info.

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Post ID: @zdp+Hss4hZW

Hop back on your unicorn and fly over the rainbow, fruitcake. DERP.

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