Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

Verizon and the N word

It appears that Verizon management likes to avoid the N word. That's right NEGOTIATIONS. They do however like to use some N words like Neanderthal, Narcissist, and Non-profitable Neighborhood. All in a derogatory way. The union members are not extinct Europeans they are the ones that do the work that provide management with their paycheck every week. Their contract is also what management pay scales are based upon. The more the union makes the more management makes. They are not narcissist. They have families and are active in the communities. They spend the money they make in the local community and make jobs for others possible by shopping at local stores. I am sure that there are some employees who may live in the non profitable neighborhoods that management elects to bypass with fios or refuses to maintain plant. But according to Verizon's own diversity policy,which management enforces, these are all infractions and discriminative things that can include up to dismissal.

And yes I may have made grammatical errors and whatever else who cares. The fact is management is still employed Verizon and is still bound by the code of conduct and diversity.

The golden rule Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Show respect and you will get it in return. The same is true for union members. They are tired of working for yes men /women / whatever Jenner is now. While you were attending your families events and they were out of town for the sake of Verizon did anyone of you call and ask if there was anything you could do to help them out? Probably not because tension has been high for years between the 2 sides. Stop saying yes, yes, yes and start saying the N word. Negotiate Negotiate, negotiate instead of the other crap

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Post ID: @OP+HgjGemm

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lol Verizon doesn't want to Negotiate but yet the Union declined the Mediation process?.. that's.. odd..

hahah gtfo

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Post ID: @1hzc+HgjGemm

I believe they have delivered the F word more than once to the union capos. Final.

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Post ID: @asx+HgjGemm

@HgjGemm-zza, you are fortunate . One medical problem and you would be wiped out. Walk a mile in someone's shoes. Your reply is typical. You lack the humanity that was once prevalent in our society.

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Post ID: @ryb+HgjGemm

I feel sorry for you person story but I fail to see why any of this is Verizon's responsibility. I don't have nor do I want a pension or retirement package that depends on this company. I put back money of my own for my retirement. That money is mine, I know it will be there when I retire. I know it won't be at the whims of a company or a union that don't have my best interests at heart, only their own. This strike was a dumb call on the union's part. They have strength here at all. Arguing that things shouldn't be this way don't change the way things are. The company is looking out for the shareholders as they are obligated to do. My father has been retired for more than thirty years. Yes, his government job gave him a retirement package. They also have cut that several times over the years since they also aren't obligate to keep deals made a generation ago. Fortunately he also put back enough money to pay for his own retirement even if that package vanished. I learned from him and I'm keeping all my investments in the future under my control.

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Post ID: @zza+HgjGemm

I never said pensions. I said retiree package should be standard. On the flip side why has the company never offered a standard package including medical, and keep it uniform with COL and the likes? Many non union companies do so it does not have to be a negotiated thing. They could offer their package or the union negotiated package. I am sure my 78 year old mother who was force retired from Verizon will never use the in vitro fertilization benefit that is covered at 100% as part of her retirement medical plan.

I do think that the union needs to get out of the 1940's in that individual titles and their functions have become crossed at times. Combo titles make more sense. Also with remote locating some people. It just makes sense and benefits both sides. Right there is probably a good source of force reduction.

As for contractors, most of them are either people who could not pass the test or have the "4 yr college degree" requirement to be Verizon employees. I have watched contractors through out the strikes over the years and most recently watched one get shutdown by the Verizon contract services manager for being unsafe. Having your own people makes things standard and safe not only for your own people but the public in general. Contractors generally get the money and go unless they live in that community.

Verizon claims to be a family friendly employer. Harassing employees with all the monitoring and jobs per day is ridiculous most of the times. Trust your employees, treat them right and let them do there job, the bad apples will show through. The good ones will be there and strikes would not be an issue.

The personal side of this is as a former union member and employee of 23 yrs I volunteered to go out of town and do storm damages or whatever was needed. The one time I declined to volunteer was due to my kids high school graduation. I was forced out of state. While on that assignment a drunk driver crashed through our barricades striking me and severing my leg below the knee. After a lengthy recovery I returned to work. Unable to climb a pole with a prosthetic I was terminated and unable to get any benefits after declining to move 200 miles at my expense to Ashburn for an office job. ( My disabled mother who suffered a stroke after retirement lives with me). About a month after my discharge my manager and the one that forced me was able to medically retire. His condition- psoriasis from his drinking problem.

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Post ID: @rmo+HgjGemm

If the retirees pensions should be untouchable then why has the union never put that in a contract? All the contracts have time limits. The current one is up. Everything should be on the table. I agree the company has a mantra. They also have the position of power here. Although they do need you they don't need all of you. They can also make do with new hires and contractors. They would rather switch to as many contractors as possible. Contractors are not as skilled a labor pool but they are more reliable. That pool will always be there. They won't go out on strike every few years. I think the company can survive a long time chanting it's mantra, the union members not so much.

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Post ID: @hnh+HgjGemm

They are just asking to be treated decently and respectfully. Just like you would grandma and grandpa they are older and have ,ore knowledge to draw off of and respected. Current Retirees should not even be a part of this negotiation process. They should have a standard package forever.

Fios data is highly desired in most areas and I am guessing is probably very profitable.

The same can be said of the company. They are on a mantra too. Do you think management is going to take a pay cut or anything else? I mean new hires at a lower wage and no benefits plus a mobile workforce translates into less managers and they need to be mobile as well. How much are they willing to give up to stay employed? $13/ hr for new hires equates to roughly $17 / hr for a supervisor. How much are you willing to give up?

l think egos are at play on both sides.

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Post ID: @dba+HgjGemm

No point in negotiating when one side starts with the mantra "no give backs". If one side won't give then there can really be no negotiation. Both sides need to gain something. In this case the company doesn't win by giving yet more to a small portion of the company. The negotiations are over. Both sides have made their stand. You have "no give backs". We have made our "last best offer". No room for negotiations there. The company realizes this, that is why they are hiring new workers.

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