Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

Don't believe the hype & the duty to bargain. The company HATES this. Keep up the pressure!!

All too often, management likes to stir the pot in contract negotiations by putting their so-called “final offer” on the table. With this type of proposal, the Management team is implying that the bargaining process is at an end. They may even add for effect that the “final offer” has to be accepted and ratified by the membership by a date specific or it is off the table and forever lost. Also, for emphasis they may add a few adjectives such as- “this is our last, best and final offer” in a take-it-or-leave-it tone.

Such a tactic usually occurs towards the later stages of the bargaining process, and is designed to intimidate and threaten the union team into accepting a substandard settlement. Not surprisingly, Management teams view these inflammatory offers with deadlines attached much differently than do the Union committees. They see it as “a useful way to exert pressure on the union to act upon management’s final offer” and a “businesslike way of negotiating”. (Negotiating a Labor Contract : A Management Handbook by Charles Loughran) However, by simply declaring that this is their “final offer” does not in any way absolve management from their legal obligation and duty to bargain.

The duty to bargain is set out in the National Labor Relations Act, as well as in the Massachusetts collective bargaining law, Chapter 150 (e). It requires that both parties (the union and the employer) engage in the process of bargaining over mandatory subjects in good faith. This means that there is “…a mutual obligation of the employer and representative of the employees to meet at reasonable times and confer in good faith with respect to wages, hours and other terms and conditions of employment …” (National Labor Relations Act, Sec. 8 (d)). and “The employer and the exclusive representative shall meet at reasonable times, including meetings in advance of the employer’s budget-making process and shall negotiate in good faith with respect to wages, hours, standards or productivity and performance, and any other terms and conditions of employment … (Mass. Chap. 150 (e)).

Neither party may unilaterally or prematurely terminate that bargaining process by declaring that it is at an end. However, an employer’s “final offer” attempts to do just that.

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Post ID: @OP+HfdYtGN

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Please keep it up. I need to make some more money. Plus, I'm in no hurry to work on some of my regular work. Kind of nice to be fed on the company dime and make more than 2x regular salary.

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Post ID: @pyy+HfdYtGN

Yes, thanks for the post. Very true, company made 5 last offers..only forwarded this last one to company...there is always more to negotiate..Mediation has never been withdrawn so that means the offer is not final..If the company so badly does not want wireline anymore they sure as hell wont hire permanent replacements...but they need the wireline to be successful, they will be obligated to fulfill the contract agreements they have made, which means TEMP replacement workers with the hope this does not last long..The company wants the Union to come back ASAP so they can begin offering pkgs for them to retire and get off their books. The company wants to retire as many Union employees as possible as fast as possible. So they really want this strike over.

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Post ID: @qws+HfdYtGN

ynt:

They do have 10k trained employees. I know union people for the most part aren't college grads or Rhodes' Scholars, but 10,000 people are not going to be an even swap for 40,000 strikers. Plus, they likely didn't think the strike would go on this long.

So yes they are aggressively hiring more people so the EWAs can go back to their day jobs.

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Post ID: @lvg+HfdYtGN

And the OP is yet another union person with a narcissistic view of the strike.

Unlike the OP, the execs and management have other things to do and don't sit around 24/7 thinking about the strike or you.

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Post ID: @tgm+HfdYtGN

OP, way to copy & paste

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Post ID: @mlh+HfdYtGN

@uni..thanks for the compliment on my post, but I disagree w yours. Notice how carefully worded the ads are, always using the "temp" verbiage. Anything more would trigger immediate unemployment benefits for all of us, and VZ doesn't want that headache. They are breaking a sweat, the region they still have is hardcore Union, and won't be broken. That's a fact.

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Post ID: @ake+HfdYtGN

@HfdYtGN-ynt ...you forgot to mention that of the ones that do make it thru training a percentage will either be fired or even quit.. Last training class in my office.. over half the class is still with the company and a few did get fired.....so much for training

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Post ID: @qei+HfdYtGN

Cool post bro, but you're wrong. Last best final offer indicates company is preparing to hire replacement workers due to an impasse. Company is not even breaking a sweat but word on the street is that union members are furious with their leadership and they want to return to work.

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Post ID: @uni+HfdYtGN

The ads for temp replacement workers smacks of desperation. I thought they had 10k well trained employees ready to step right in and make sure everything ran smoothly. What gives? Do the math, for every 100 applicants half will fail the tests, 50% left will fail background check, 50% of those left will fail drug test. That leaves around 12 out of the original 100, and that's a high estimate. After a month of classroom training they will still know nothing, and won't be able to fix or install a thing. Sounds like a money pit to me, but what do I know, I'm only a union thug who has been perfecting my craft for 20 years. I'm sure someone can step right in and replace me. Not.

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