Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

Union Brothers and Sisters. Who can relate?

I've never really spoke about my career with The Phone Company. I did it for 10-12 hours a day/6 days a week. I didn't want to talk about it at the end of the day or on here. That's why I love my friends, family, the nights out and Facebook.

Takes my mind off the boring and repetitive aspect of the job. This is true for many people and their careers.

If you wouldn't do it for free, then you don't like your job. Period.

I started on June 16th, 1995. Hired as a temporary worker when it was still known as NYNEX. I was a splicers helper in Sunset Park. $221 a week before taxes. To sit in a wet, rat filled manhole or be strapped to a strand 45 feet in the air, splicing broken telephone cable. In good weather, rain, downpours, wind, snow, -7 or 107 degrees. No air conditioning in trucks. Worked in all of the NYC projects. Where things were thrown out of windows on a weekly basis.

This is the job my Dad did, this is what my brothers did. I remember reminding myself top pay is in 5 years kid...Just 5 years. Hang in there.

In 1997, NYNEX became Bell Atlantic and I became a permanent employee. At this point, I had moved on to I&R. ( Installation and Repair). I enjoyed doing this more than the splicing years. I got to see the customers, the elderly who would open their doors crying and holding my hands because their phones weren't working and they couldn't call their sons, daughters or doctors. Cell phones were not as popular then as they are today. Especially amongst the elderly.

I never left a customers house until that dial tone came on. Sure, I got yelled at for not having a higher number in productivity. "Return it to Cable Maintenance", "Return it to Central Office" No. I didn't care. I'd run a wire down the block if I needed too. That woman was my Mom, my Grandmother, my sick Aunt and that phone was coming on. End of story. This was also noticed by great managers who took the time to read the letters or play the voicemails the customers left about the great job I did. It's not always about the money somedays.

In 2000, Bell Atlantic became Verizon. One year from top pay. You made it kid. It's gonna start paying off. You understand the job, you learned a trade, there's no problem you can't fix.

I felt rewarded. I felt pride

My disdain and anger towards this company came as soon as that new name appeared on the trucks and billboards.

I felt the shift.

Great managers were "RIF'd" (Reduction in Force).

Fancy word for fired.

Every month brought new and unattainable goals with it.

New managers every month.

We were given time quotas. No more than two hours on any job. Five jobs a day. One job would be in Sheepshead Bay, the next job was in Downtown Brooklyn. If we didn't start and end the job within that two hour window, disciplinary action was taken. Verbal, written, suspension and finally terminated from company and payroll. The outside plant started to fall apart. No more cables replaced, broken poles stopped being fixed, supplies and tools we needed stopped coming into our garages.

Then every truck was fitted with a state of the art GPS tracking system. At the time, Verizon said it was for fleet control and would not be used for discipline.

That lasted 2 years.

Suspensions started coming down. Some were deserved, the bad apples, the 80/20 employee ratio. Some definitely abused the job. They needed to go.

Then, slowly but surely, everyone was being watched. We would receive calls from Texas and California wondering why we were where we were. When we answered that we we were at the Central Office to use the bathroom, we were asked if we called our managers. To take a piss? At 35 years of age?

Then the discipline and suspensions started to hit for these "infractions."

Men and women who never climbed a pole or saw the inside of a New York City Housing apartment became our managers.

No cones around truck?

Discipline.

No vest?

Discipline

No hardhat?

Discipline?

2 hours and 1 minute over?

Discipline.

When FiOS originally arrived, the technicians were sent to training facilities for a month to learn how to install and maintain the new technology. A full month.

A few months ago, when I was finally told I'd be leaving the Installation and repair of phones and of the copper plant, I understood because it's the direction the world is going in.

I rode with another technician for 3 days. Then sent out into the FiOS world. 3 days. Down from an entire month.

I had no idea what I was doing, no numbers to call, not given the FiOS tools I needed.

I taught myself slowly. Everyday I was figuring out how to do new things and make progress.

3 weeks later I was on FiOS installation when my manager came out. This was the first time I saw him out in the field. We never talked before. I was on 43rd street in Boro Park. I was soaked, on my third sweatshirt and finishing the job. Everything was up and running. Customer praised the job I did, in under 3 hours.

My manager left the customer and came back over to me. He asked where my "Ladder Mate" was. I had no idea what that was. No one ever used one. Apparently, it's a strap you connect to the ladder and wrap around the pole. I told him I was never given one, and never taught how to use one.

I was suspended on the soaking street we stood on. Hardhat, foggy and water speckled safety glasses, steel toe boots, safety vest, gloves, electrical ground tester hooked to tool belt.

Suspended for something I was never introduced to or trained for. Not a single mark in the 20+ years of my career.

This was happening everywhere, 5 days for this, 10 for this. A stop at a restaurant or Central Office to use the bathroom was now a 30 day suspension.

Forced assigned every night, forced Saturday's and forced Sunday's. No joking. 10-12 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Money is not everything.

This forced OT is in it's second year.

I didn't mind my job when I started. I absolutely hate what this company has become. It's affecting my mental and physical health and my life in general. I want my days to be 8 hours work, 8 hours my time and 8 hours sleep. That's all.

There are no rewards to be had.

I have no pride left.

We are on our fourth week of a strike. No medical, health or prescription coverage. No income.

While I was mobile picketing, I came across the manager that suspended me. He was doing a FiOS install.

Voice/Phone only.

He stuck his hand out to shake mine, I politely declined.

I asked the customer how the manager was doing with the installation.

"It's his fourth day here, he doesn't know what he's doing, I'm getting annoyed, we need you guys back man." I shook his hand and said, sarcastically, "Good luck with this one, this is a manger with a heart of gold..."

Then I walked over to my personal car, pulled something out of the trunk, walked over to the pole with the extension ladder leaning on it, and dropped a ladder mate.

Stay Strong CWA.

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Post ID: @OP+HeAUBVJ

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No different they any job big companies are all trying to get rid of their higher paid employees

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Post ID: @1dao+HeAUBVJ

Very well said! Stay strong! Together we win

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Post ID: @1xdp+HeAUBVJ

32 Shares - WOW

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Post ID: @dvh+HeAUBVJ

@iws

Great Post Brother

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Post ID: @drq+HeAUBVJ

13 years as a construction splicer , installing litespans and slc cabinets, splicing in fiber and installing muxes to run the cell towers and run the trunk lines that all this data goes over. 13 years as a cable maintenance tech, wiping lead sleeves in manholes, repairing back yard lead cables , all nighters working in the freezing cold. The Job was hard but yet gratifying, I enjoyed coming to work.

Today's Verizon, not one new tech since 2000, no one to train to learn these skills that take years to learn, telling the elderly lady that has paid her phone bill for the last 50 years that you're sorry for her poor service because Verizon doesn't care about landlines anymore and they want you to leave even though the company reaped all that cash in and used it to build there empire. Tour after tour to NYC, customers take a day of off work because we made an appointment but we never show up because the workload is to high. Engineers can't replace old cables and aren't allowed to run cable to new sub divisions or businesses, not economically feasible. Can't order batteries for equipment that needs to have power during a commercial power outage, can't replace defective circuit packs. We have learned how to improvise and give our customers service despite this.

New boss said to me last month "wow, you really care about the job you do, you'll learn"and tells you not to pick up a job after 2pm because if I don't finish it he'll get a FDR widget (first dispatch resolution)and he'll lose his bonus, he wants you to sit around for 2 1/2 hrs doing nothing. That's the new Verizon credo!

I have always took pride in my work and believed if I gave customers good service that they would stay with us and I'd always have my good job but Verizon is committed to killing landlines and its working. Fios is a great product but its a "landline" and the company will sacrifice it to kill the union and its workers. Most of us union slugs are going the extra mile everyday to go around all the roadblocks the company has put up against us, we give people and businesses our cell numbers so they can call us directly because verizon won't dispatch. Our number one complaint is the overseas call centers and the frustration of trying to communicate to someone what there trouble is.

I talked to one of my old bosses yesterday and they said the company is just closing out trouble without fixing them or returning them to cable because they have no idea what to do, yet Tracy Edwards is sending out emails that there productivity is to low. This is all falling into Lowell's master plan to get rid of customers, managers and technicians so he can swim in his vault of gold coins. As a veteran of the military it embarrasses me that Lowell is a veteran too and how he can turn his back on the people and the country that he helped defend. He'll lay on his death bed and wonder if his life meant anything and he'll feel empty inside.

Manager's welcome a Rif and tech's can't wait until they can retire. Lowell, take that 9 billion in the pension fund and send us all checks and we're out of here.

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Post ID: @iws+HeAUBVJ

It has definitely been a culture of harassment since Seidenberg was shooed out for the moron we have in place now but be emboldened that people like Lowell never last. They can try all they want but in the end it becomes too expensive and stressful for them to continue to wage war against their own employees. I've seen plenty of guys like him from both the military and civilian world and they eventually get the boot because everyone else gets tired of their games as well. Management and craft both hate these blood suckers and it will be a painful time but they WILL NOT LAST.

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Post ID: @vsa+HeAUBVJ

Regardless if Union or company, I have a pet peeve that really annoys me. Don't say ,when the state starts paying out unemployment. Unemployment is your money, you have paid into it your whole working life. That money doesn't belong to the state it belongs to you.

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Post ID: @ajy+HeAUBVJ

"They can't just "cast us aside". There are Laws that must be followed. When the state has to pay $20,000,000 in unemployment every week, a fair contract will be signed."

Look up bargaining labor laws. VZ is completing every step needed to cast you aside. Their strategy is to grind you down by attrition. They won't even need to call a lockout. Some more will cross and others will give up over time as they replace you with contractors. The scrooges running this company don't care about you or me they only care about the stock price. It will take a hit in Q2 but if they remove you they can make it up in the long run with low contractor pay and a less barriers to selling wireline completely.

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Post ID: @qep+HeAUBVJ

After reading this, i dont think any one wants strike to end. It is a living hell for sure and we need a movement to replace top leaders

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Post ID: @uxs+HeAUBVJ

Yep. Op said it all. Sad.

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Post ID: @dhs+HeAUBVJ

A truly moving post. I feel for the OP. Here's how I see it...it appears as if Verizon intends to do away with the Union one way or the other. I think that is the reason for all the reported write-ups/suspensions for minor infractions. The union workforce continues to drop (85K in 2000, 45K in 2011, 36K in 2016). I think regardless of the outcome of this strike Verizon will continue to focus on whittling down the union workforce because employee pay/benefits is a manageable cost of doing business. I think regardless of the outcome, things will be bad for Union and bad for non-union when it is all over. Whatever concessions the Union wins will come off the backs of the non-union in the form of RIFs but I think Verizon upper management will continue to micromanage the Union workers. It will create a hostile work environment for everyone.

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Post ID: @ayb+HeAUBVJ

Agreed!

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Post ID: @buk+HeAUBVJ

Sorry to distract from excellent post by OP. Maybe MCI guy should make his own thread?

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Post ID: @srd+HeAUBVJ

If you are going to cast stones, then I must say having worked as a tech in specials, MCI aka Verizon Business is consistently by far the stupidest vendor I ever had to work with.

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Post ID: @vki+HeAUBVJ

A Different Career Path:

I started with MCI in 1983 wiring on a CO frame. MCI was non-union hence there was no job security/negotiated raises. Advancement was merit based and job security was achieved by doing a good job. A couple of ex Bell/Union employees that worked along side me use to give me grief about working to fast. Their mentality was that I was taking away someones job. I was not restricred to what I was authorized to work on be it switch, mux, frame,etc. I learned quick. After 6 months I was promoted, a year later promoted a year later promoted again so on and so forth. In the early days I was acheving 17% raises. 5 % for the promotion and 12% merit/required amount to get me to the minimum of the next pay scale. I moved up rapidly a soon became a non-exempt engineer and continued to advance rapidly through the engineering ranks. The merit raises have slowed down as I'm topped out in band 6 but that's not a bad place to be. We have had many RIFS over the years but If your good you survive regardless of seniority. Even those that get A RIF typically find another job in a month or two. Having marketable skills helps. I can sympathize with the OP's current work condition's but how much of that is a result of the "bad apples" that do the very mimimum to get by knowing they have job security?

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Post ID: @cgn+HeAUBVJ

They can't just "cast us aside". There are Laws that must be followed. When the state has to pay $20,000,000 in unemployment every week, a fair contract will be signed.

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Post ID: @fxb+HeAUBVJ

I can relate. Every word is true, not exaggerated and has been my experience as well.

We stay because the job we were hired for provided us with a great way of life. We stay because we cannot wrap our heads around the idea that this company would just cast us aside after all these years.

I am deeply saddened by that probability, as it appears now.

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Post ID: @jfg+HeAUBVJ

We weren't always treated this way. This has all happened recently. I'm not leaving a job after 20 years because of bullying tactics and corporate pressure. The Strike was the only choice and I am 100% behind it.

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Post ID: @ndc+HeAUBVJ

Still havent seen a real laddermate. The management says to use yellow rope or spun yarn as substitution

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Post ID: @jft+HeAUBVJ

I have to ask, why would it anyone stay at, let alone fight for, a job where you are treated like crap everyday?

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Post ID: @lkp+HeAUBVJ

Very nice, Thank you

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Post ID: @wfd+HeAUBVJ

Now that is something I can get behind and support. Well Said.

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Post ID: @fjg+HeAUBVJ

I am with you my brother.

That is my story too.

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