Well, turns out I am in scope. To my surprise, I am actually angry about it. I suspected I would be in scope, but I guess now that it is here and real I feel a bit slighted. Part of me was holding out hope that I wouldn't be selected, but reality has struck. I can say that at this moment I do not feel much loyalty to CVX. Being in scope has demotivated me completely. This is not a good thing when you want to try to keep your job or get another one but it is what it is. I suspect I will get over it, and regain focus. After all it ain't over yet. Hopefully others will vent their feelings/thoughts here and it will help them as well as those that can read their thoughts and understand what they are thinking and feeling too.
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Cancer cluster in CVX employees who have worked at BOB? Brain cancer, deep skin cancer on feet, not exposed to the sun, breast cancer cases. Flooding of basement and first floor by tainted water. Ground water contamination?
The Chernobyl building... that's pretty good. LMAO. Real estate values will plummet in that part of Bellaire.
Bring a Geiger counter to BOB and walk over to the Chernobyl building. Take several readings. Have a friend video tape your activity.
@5wml, surely it can't be that bad, right? Unless you are prepared for retirement, what would you do if you don't work for Chevron anymore? The pay is good, the benefits are great, and your pension continues to grow with each year on the job. One thing is being prepared mentally for the worst. But like I asked, Chevron can't be that bad, right?
I have fully expected this for 6 months. Honestly I might be disappointed if I DONT get laid off . Mentally prepared" 😐
I wish I was in a union, because I am an entitled useless POS and I would like to be paid the same as others and not be in scope even though I do little to no work. That is just my entitled liberal parasite mentality. I was born with rights, like the right for health care. It's a natural born right, Sanders said so and he will make it happen. We were all born with the natural born right to have teams of skilled physicians who dedicated their lives and $billions in technology to take care of us and serve us. Even though we are useless P.O.S. parasites. By being born as (liberal)sub-humans we have the right to be dead wood and be paid the same as other union members and have others take care of us(right to health care). Like colonel sanders says.
I was in the Rom at the end of 2015. I have never been happier. I thought it was so scary at the time but now I am relaxed and stress-free. Chevron is full of petty tyrants and bullies and HR just looks the other way. So glad to be out of that toxic environment!
@1xlh If I were a mechanical/electrical/chemical engineer I wouldn't be sweating. Drilling engineer with a PE degree... not many options out there. I have applied at one place so far. But it would be a 30% pay cut at a humbling regulatory body. If anybody knows of places to hire, please share.
The debt load after such a long period of high prices is surprising but don't forget all the assets we are currently selling at fire sale prices. We should be buying assets right now, not selling. But we can't because we spent hundreds of billions on poor investments.
@1rau, you are right. Chevron is going to look very different when oil prices come back and people start running for the door. Good people will not forget how Chevron has handled this situation. I honestly think Chevron will have a hard time retaining top performers when times are good again. Obviously no oil company is immune to these prices, but how we have gotten in such bad shape after almost 6 years of $100 oil is astounding for such a supposedly financially sound company. $28 billion in debt 15 months after a major boom? We really blew our load this time. Going to be hard to recover. Wishing everybody the best through this tough process.
OK folks. If you get "left standing", it is not the end of your life or even the end of your career. Just put your big boy pants on and drive on. Think about all of the guys who work for the engineering houses who get laid off every couple of years. Every single person that I have seen get laid off over the years has always, without exception, been able too move on.
BE THE COMPETITION!
And yes, I am in scope with the rest of you.
I'm so thankful to not be in scope for this tremendously large and scary ROM. I read this site for the occasional good tidbits of information, but at the moment my heart hurts for everyone impacted by this current ESP, or in 2015 by Alpha and the RAE, and the events yet to come. The prospect of unemployment at any point in your career is daunting. Every one of us has our own life, home, and/or family to worry about. I don't wish this on anybody.
@1lol, please tell. I work at BOB and would like to compare notes.
We should expose Chevron's skeletons that give the corrupt lifers so much leverage. I know a blockbuster at BOB.
I'm with the OP and sxq. I knew the odds of being out of scope were poor, but for some reason I thought my consistent 2+ performance would earn me a spot. I took the news fine on the spot. But the next day I found out who was out of scope and it hit me hard. Like others have said, it's about position. There are some much less savvy engineers out of scope than in, but they were in the right job at the right time. I'm looking at you, WellSafe. I went through the anger stage of grief at the gym. Then sadness hit me as I humbly asked a mentor to review my GO-400-2. I'm going to do the bare minimum to keep my supervisor thinking I'm working and spend more time in meetings where I know my PDC sponsor will be. My job is open, so I think I have a chance. But the wildcard is all of the expats that are flooding back... how can I compete with somebody who has done my job then got more experience overseas? Meanwhile, I haven't had the chance to post out because I've been spinning my wheels to get the x years under my belt for my expat location of choice. Speaking of expat, Chevron moved my cheese, and they moved it hard. There were two reasons I came to work for CVX: safe job and international opportunity. I thought I would retire at Chevron. The way I've been kicked around chasing phantom carrots... there was any job market for a petroleum degree I would be racing for the door. This company is going to look very different in 3 years when all of the good engineers that got jerked around remember how they were treated and jump ship.
Unions help stop the nepotism all of you rail against. Start one before it's too late.
Otherwise quit griping about favoritism, nepotism, diversity, blah blah blah.
You have a way to change this shit, so shut up and do it you stupid f---s.
Some of the key factors for longevity at Chevron are who you know, a relative in a high place and knowledge of the payoffs, discrimination, management bullies and secret toxic waste sites throughout the U.S.
-kkv work related illnesses are compensable. WC law is liberal as it is your only remedy. Get an attorney, and file a claim.
My group went from being 'possibly out of scope' to 'only some of you are in scope' to..... Ready for this? 'Your position has been eliminated'
Needless to say I was laid off.
5 years with nothing but awards and accolades for my 'unique skill set' to 'we don't need your position'
I agree with most posters here: managers already know who they want in which positions. The ROM is just a formality to avoid lawsuits.
I am in scope. My job will be open for job postings across north america. Yikes, how do i compete against peers who have more years of experience than me? Help.
My manager betrayed me. I was only act as one of his rung on the ladder he climbing up his career. I was 2+ consecutively for the last 3 years. He got a mandate to reduce staff in his department by a certain number. All along he said I was doing a real good job sacrificing my time late in the office. I worked 20 years with Chevron of which during the 3 years rotation in Nigeria I got the nasty Malaria disease. And when I was rotating 2 years in Venezuela I got the Tuberculosis while mingling with the local workforce. Of which my body cannot tolerate the medication to ride the bacteria. The doctor said the TV bacteria was in dormant stage and may surface anytime in future. Chevron management said that are the risk I took when I accept the assignment. Now I am abandoned. My wife left me after 25 years marriage because I spent too much time into my job providing for the family. She took away $2 million worth from my 35 years earning. I am done. I am screwed. What jobs is out there left for the thousands to compete?
If it wasn't for the unions in the 1920s you wouldn't be enjoying those perks that your cushy job is comprised of (40 hour work week, sick leave, two day weekend). I guess the fact that the auto industry and Boeing are thriving has nothing to do with unions. You are brainwashed and scared. So you deserve to be in fear for your job. Also, the entitlement mentality is already thriving in Chevron. Have a look at the threads discussing nepotism. People feel entitled because their daddy is a big manager somewhere.
I am in the same boat as the OP. I thought I was mentally prepared for the fact that I was going to be in scope. Then after the announcements went out and word started to spread who was in and who was out of scope the frustration set in. I noticed that a lot of folks I knew that did their job well were out of scope. Meanwhile here I sit in scope with two ones and a 2+ as my previous rankings for the last 3 years.
Unions are garbage. Unions eventually turn even the most motivated employees sour, based on the fact that everyone makes the same money, whether they do their job or play candy crush on their phones all day.
Vt1- some have been told already, and obviously you have not yet been told.
How do you all know you are "In Scope", when we are being told that we will not find out until the 18th?
This is not 1920. You have a 'I get and keep this job regardless of performance' mentality and use the working conditions and laws of 1920 to try to justify it. Supervisors are not all a-holes and I have been none union my whole life, working 16 years now and I keep my job based on performance alone - nothing else. You are a liberal who, by your post, typically assumes things about someone elses position. Your very post 'Well, we are union so we are not in scope' speaks for itself.
The employers have fooled you to believe their BS. You don't understand unions and try to chalk it off to entitlement mentality (something you heard about on radio talk shows). The alternative to having unions is to have to beg for some asshole supervisors mercy so that maybe you be considered for your job or another job.
Unions are for people who would never get or hold a job based on performance. The entitlement mentality is shameful.
Unions only make it worse for everyone else.
I've been through 3 ROMS so far in my BU where I was in scope and the position was either gone, or the small team I was on was slashed in half. Focus on your GO-400, GTMIS, and regardless what the official line is find a way to reach out to the position owner to let them know who you are and what you bring to the table. That means calendar snooping, elevator pitch moments, bumping into them at lunch/gym/coffee room, etc. Anything that can repaint in their minds who you are and what value you bring to the table. You may be an introverted propeller-headed engineer, but now is not the time to be a wallflower. It can/will be challenging, but find a way to gracefully and tactfully make a positive impression. (Which means a big no to creepy "urinal pitches" and naked locker room pitches.)
Thankfully some people in the past had enough foresight to start a union in my BU so we are out of scope. It's a shame western cultures have caved into to the whims of industry and gave away their rights for nothing in return.
There are so many corporate TLA's (three letter acronym) tossed about on this message board. Most, maybe all, are specific to Chevron. None of these matter when you are looking/interviewing with a new employer. Is no one here capable of using plain, straightforward English? All of the Chevron buzzwords and processes mean absolutely nothing once you are gone.
I've been in scope a few times & I'm assuming I'll know by Monday that I am this ROM too. My best advice is to let yourself go through the stages of greif & develop a backup plan like previous posters suggested. Is there something you've wanted to dabble in that will still bring in money while you apply for jobs within your area of expertise? There are multiple job/career opportunities that only require certificates to get started that would cost a couple hundred to couple thousand dollars.
Being in scope is not bad. If your job is in organization chart then nothing to worry about. The problem comes only if the role is gone.
I am also in scope. Just wonder why my supervisor sound so horrible when he informed me earlier？Since about 60% of expats are in scope, even with 50% reduction of positions, we are potentially still looking at 50% chance. Am I missing something here？
Knowing is half the battle. Now we just wait until this coming Monday.
I'm in scope also. I feel as though if I wasn't skilled enough to be placed in the LSP, why would I be considered for something else. The management team already knows who is going to be in/out. They couldn't possibly filter through the 100s of applicants for ESP jobs in the short time that is slated. So, looking forward, I have already began searching for positions that are not in the upstream oil and gas industry. 10 years and two major downturns has left a bad taste in my mouth.
Well when we each lose our jobs, just remember, there will be 3999 other shleps in line with us as we turn in our badges.
IMO - For what it is worth. No need to focus on your work at this point. As a past manager, no one is expecting this. Come on, do as you are asked and focus on the next chapter of your life. Have serious discussions with your family. Share what is going on and brainstorm a bit to have a plan. This so important. There are many options. We opened a subway shop and today we have 7 opening our 8th. There are so many options as long as the family is together.
Drive my stick shift at full speed in the effen parking lot, eat alcohol laced chocolates at my desk, wear my skirt several inches above my knees, sexually harrass random men, wear 9 inch hills and run up the stairs, never have to drink coffee out of a sippy cup , ) , ) Aaah.....freedom!