Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

@-3ocz spot on!

ase, Millennials your posting "Millennials = what's in it for me?" is incorrect in today's America.

To be honest, Millennials have let everything slip away to serve their bosses.

They work far past 40 hours, without accruing any more pay. They don't even know what OT is.

They stay glued to their phone, 24/7, at their bosses beck and call, for zero standby pay.

They have given up their vacations, in lieu of staycations, or simply surrendered their down time completely (refusing to take vacation days) out of fear of being replaced.

These dupes are impressed by a pat on the head, and an "atta boy", more than by concrete things like OT pay and vacation weeks.

Just give these dopey Millennial types a title with "senior" or "distinguished" in it, send them on their way, and they're happy as pigs in sh*t. All these dopey, kid-faced, one-year-out-of-college workers with "senior" in their title. What a joke - "senior of what, you're 22?"

They refuse to ask to be treated decently.

They've been duped into thinking it's a good thing to have no loyalty in either direction in the employee/employer relationship.

They think they've won, in an environment where there's no peace of mind, where they start over at new jobs every three years, and where their futures are dim because, in this brave new world they've created, one in which they've set themselves up to be chewed up, spit out, and washed up, once they hit their fifties.

However, in their youthful ignorance, they're too short-sighted to see what they've been a party in creating.

Also, they intern for peanuts, and do so feeling privileged for the opportunity to be used and abused.

They're willing slaves because, if they don't do it, there's plenty of Millennials lined up behind them to take their place, willing to do anything, to move back out of mom and dad's house.

These kids don't have enough spine to demand something better. They're poor, but they've labeled it Hipster, because it doesn't sound so bad.

Baby Boomer here.

bhm (aka lgh?), you're (both?) wrong (and silly). Millennial's right. To claim the Cold War was an actual war is inaccurate. Seems like you're desperately trying to salvage a losing position. You claim "that wuss like you has no idea about American history or the US Armed Forces." Seems you're the one who's historical view is absurd.

Unlike in the past, there is currently no draft, so of course a smaller percentage of the populace will have served.

Further, there are cutbacks in the number of service people the armed forces require.

The changing face of the weaponry requires less people, as it's more automated.

We send a drone now in many cases where we would have sent manned aircraft in the past.

We also have not had an all out war as of late, one requiring each and every branch to be bursting at the seams with personnel. Therefore there's no enormous sub fleet, fully manned, for instance.

It should be viewed as a good thing that many young people have not had to face a war.

And otl, are you reading the same article, and viewing the same graphs within it, that I am?

It says 15% of Millennials are willing to serve, or currently serving (compared to the 4% number you're fixated on). Considering there's 80 million people born between 1982 and 2000, that's 12 million individuals (minus a few who have not yet of age to serve), more troops than is even required. We're in fine shape. The armed forces are in the enviable position to refuse all but the best applicants. BTW, your "4% of the population are Veterans" quote, does it include both genders? I ask because, although woman are now serving in larger numbers, traditionally, they were blocked in many ways from doing so, relegated to support roles. It they're part of your "population" calculation, your numbers are skewed for obvious reason.

ony and lgh appear a lot more logical than you three? bozos and, rxy speaks more authoritatively on this subject than any of you armchair generals.

Millennials = what's in it for me?

@ETNfRc0-lgh spoken like a true millenial milquetoast. Korea and Viet Nam was part of the cold war, the Mayaguez was taken during the cold war, the Iran Hostage situtation occured during the Cold War, and there were plenty more incidents as well. But what this tells me is that wuss like you has no idea about American history or the US Armed Forces. You ignorance make you the perfect Verizon tool.

"And the longest war was the Cold War."

Wow.

You seem beyond hope for me to try to have a rationale argument with you so before I go I will at least try to teach you what the definition of war is so you can be less ignorant in the future.

War: a state of ARMED conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

"The Cold War": A name given to a period synonymous for a state of military and political TENSION between the US and Russia.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0931831.html

Re: "That being said as a Millennial I feel the need to point out that our generation has honorably served in the longest war in US history."

But you did not suit-up to serve, and the numbers of your 'Millennials' willing to serve is embarrassing. And the longest war was the Cold War.

This has absolutely nothing to do with VZ.

This forum really needs some moderators to delete posts such as this that have no connection to vz layoff rumors and news.

That being said as a Millennial I feel the need to point out that our generation has honorably served in the longest war in US history. I find it hard to believe that a majority of millennials support boots on the ground outside of special forces. I certainly agree with NPR that our generation has lost trust in the government war machine. Eisenhower said it best. However, I feel that some will see this as an attack on our generations willingness to stand up and fight for this country. I lost friends and schoolmates to the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and sadly I know more than a handful that carry the weight of their tours today.

RXY, I disagree. It is a sad state of affairs when only 4% of the population are Veterans. We have become a nation of coat-holders, people willing to hold your coat while you do the fighting.

Right on @ETNfRc0-rxy

People can have the opinion of wanting to see the U.S. send troops to fight ISIS without wanting to do it themselves. Serving is not for everyone, and I know that I preferred to serve with people that wanted to be there then with people that were forced to join.