I have been 100% remote since I’ve been at WF, and sometimes people ask me where I’m located. Should I not say I am remote and keep my head down?
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WF managers lie to you all the time, why should you feel obligated to be honest to them? You should do the same to them. Lie, Lie and Lie!
you clearly don't run anything at WF. The people that do are the grand wizards of buying real estate high and selling it low. If this company knew S about investing we wouldn't even have admin buildings. They are 20th century money sinks that bring no value. But keep cracking that buggy whip, I'm sure they'll be coming back any day now.
@mzl+1sxovSel, I'm pretty sure (not 100% sure though) it was covered in one of the Q&A's that tech had (obviously not the part about WF being forced to offer the commute option - that came from someone else.) You may want to check that section in the benefits book as it may have been updated.
Maybe someone else on here was on the Q&A and remembers it as well?
Should you lie about still being remote? Yes, you should. If you want to be part of the Wells Fargo culture, you need to practice lies every day. Carrie T would agree.
How do we know HR got in trouble for the no option to give people a choice to commute? I was advised I was in a micro location but I live within 40 miles to a hub
@nqd+1sxovSel, not sure if you're responding to me (@ufo) or someone else. Yes, they can definitely track your log in and log out, but that's different than a badge in and badge out. The other person said badge out - which is what I was saying was inaccurate because most locations don't have badge outs.
@qbj+1sxovSel, the 40 miles restriction isn't enforceable/automatic displacement - HR got in trouble for that one. It is now up to the employee to determine if driving 41+ miles is doable or if they want to accept severance instead. They give you a choice at 40 miles. But that choice can be to commute.
Since all people are not given the change to relo, I don't know how it is determined if you can opt to commute vs displacement.
There are two posts that contain factual information here
Nice try. Wells Fargo monitors your logon ID location. When you go into the office, you have to log on to your laptop to prove that you were there.
@qbj+1sxovSel, also many locations don't have badge outs. Actually most locations likely don't have badge outs. So if they are tracking badge outs, it would be for only those locations that have that capability.
@qbj+1sxovSel, the requirement isn't 3.5 days from most LOB. I don't know for certain, but I believe most are 3 days.
Please feel free to do so. That's the Wells Fargo way.
Carrie T taught us how to lie. She was a good teacher. We all should practice what she taught us.
They are tracking badge swipes in and badge swipes out. Don't let anyone tell you differently. I know this for a fact. If you're not in a branch or not working out of a hub at least 3.5 days a week and your home address is not within 40 miles of a hub, you're toast. Simple as that. There are a handful of exceptions but that won't last long. They're reneging on all the offers where offer letter guaranteed remote work.
I am a manager who reviews badge/login reports
They do not show hours in office
My understanding is that if you have reason to suspect someone is gaming, that information can be had… but it is not routinely available on the reports themselves
I saw a screenshot someone showed me of a managers in-office report a few months ago and there was zero indication that you’re being tracked for how many hours you have been in the office.
I’ve also seen numerous examples of people coming in and not staying long at all for quite a long period of time now and they’re still working at WF. I also heard the rumors of the 4 and 6 hour in office requirement rule but no where I have seen this actually documented anywhere on WF’s internal sites. On WF’s internal RTO page where it goes over in office guidelines and expectations there is no mention of a requirement of hours to be in office.
So I ask, is this just a scare tactic that is used but not actually enforced?
The banking industry is a lie. With fractional reserve, defaults, prime rates, and rate of inflation, it's one big mess. In the grand scheme, your location doesn't matter.
Go for it.
The emails were clear. All wfh will be asked to come in to office (accommodations the exception). If office in core area then fine. If no office near or not in core area, expect layoff or asking you to transfer. This by end of 2027 but for many happening now.
Your location is in Workday. You can even look in workday and see this.
They can see where you login.
They have badge reports.
Not sure why you'd lie about it. They can check anytime.
Everyone lies at Wells Fargo, so what's the big deal? Don't worry about it.
There’s no getting around the badge report! Our management checks it weekly for compliance. And they are tracking hours via IP address but only enforcing it when someone routinely badges in and immediately goes home. 6 hours in the office = one day in the office. I make sure I’m sitting in the office at least 6 hours. Your keystrokes and location are being tracked.
@jaj+1sxovSel Yet another post showing how little folks know or understand about business finances and corporate planning. This isn’t like budgeting for your $60k single earner income household.
I’m surprised you can pay for your internet service. Shouldn’t you be somewhere complaining about the prices of fast food?
Agreed, though they truly su-k at saving money. $500M for more space in NYC full of extremely expensive employees costs a heck of a lot more than keeping existing people at other cheaper locations they are currently closing.
They have been generating badge reports for a while now. Depends on what your LOB/senior management is doing with them as to when you'll be impacted. I know people who changed their residential address in Workday to appear close to a hub. But, eventually they will get let go since they aren't badging in to their assigned location. And, supposedly IP address will be tracked as well to determine how long you were logged in to a WF location (for those who badge in then leave 15mins later). Unless you're going to a hub, staying there all day and will gladly go back to 5 days in office, you aren't safe from being laid off. The "exceptions" will be few and far between and probably for those who are client facing and/or work with high net worth client accounts. And, even hubs aren't 100% safe since jobs are being sent to India, Philippines and eventually Mexico (from what I've heard) at record speed. Those in the US will probably dwindle to Hudson Yards and those jobs where US regulations requires the job/data to be in the US.
Reminder to everyone.... all you are is an expense to WF. And CS was brought in to reign in expenses. He and the C-suite do not care about anyone who works for them. They care about how much they can save WF and how much they can increase dividends to shareholders.
In conversation I just say I'm based out of X - it's true from a certain point if view.
You can try it and let us know what happened.
Your location is displayed in Workday
@rel+1sxovSel, doesn't matter who is asking, so shut up.
They'll be able to tell that you aren't badging into the office, and you presumably have information in your HR file about being remote, even if it doesn't show in the intranet listing.
If you didn't have that information on file, then you would've been receiving corrective-action notices about why you aren't adhering to the in-office policy.
So i don't think it matters what you tell people at this point.
Who’s asking?
What you say doesn’t matter. It’s a simple matter to see from where you log in.